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Good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell in washington. Well, they have been on the run now for five days. The two escaped convicts theres no sign of the escaped killers after a potential citing tuesday launched an intense search in a rural area 50 miles southeast of the maximum security prison in upstate new york. Authorities say the trail has gone cold for now, as state Police Conduct doortodoor searches there today. This as were learning more about joyce mitchell. Shes the prison employee considered a person of interest and questioned by police. Nbcs john yang now outside the prison. John, what do we know today . Reporter well right now, andrea, i can tell you right now at the other end of this highway, this is the one highway leading in and out, they are conducting searches clearing, looking through abandoned houses. Investigators in camouflage and Tactical Gear going into the woods, checking abandoned houses all along this highway leading away from the prison. We also are told that there are housetohouse searches going on in willsboro, new york which is where yesterdays search was based on a tip, an apparent sighting. Someone said they saw two men walking down a road in the pouring rain and then ducking into the woods. The investigators took that tip seriously enough to divert a lot of resources down there to search that area all day long much of it during some rain came up emptyhanded. It is five days now since they were last seen or noticed that they were missing. This could be turning from a hot pursuit, because the search here officials are quick to point out, is not based on any new information, not based on any new tip. They say they wanted to go back over their steps, see if there was anything missing, see if there was anything that they had missed, rather see if there was anything new they could pick up. This may be going from a hot pursuit to more of a standard fugitive case, looking at phone calls in and out of the prison, who they talked to who came to visit them that sort of thing, to try to figure out where they might be headed now. John our colleague, Stephanie Gosk, yesterday interviewed Toby Mitchell he is the son, an air force veteran who is the son of joyce mitchell, who works his father also works at the prison. This is the exclusive interview with Stephanie Gosk. She is not the kind of person thats going to risk her life or other peoples lives to let these guys escape from prison. If she was involved in anything you can rest assured there was a good reason to it and theres more into it than a relationship with an inmate. Do you think its possible that she was taken advantage of . I dont know. They both are convicted murderers. I mean you have an inmate thats in prison for life they really dont have anything to lose. When youre put in a situation where a Family Member is threatened or oar Family Members might be threatened or at risk you do a lot of things that you wouldnt think to protect your family. So you worry there may have been some kind of threat. Im constantly worried about what might be going on. And there are a lot of people worried, john yang. There was a convicted murderer who had testified against escaped prisoner richard matt. He also spoke by phone with nbc news and we agreed to disguise his voice. Heres what he had to say. Theres no telling what kind of revenge he may want to exact on people. Theres no telling exactly whats in his mind. This is a very psychotic individual, and its somebody that definitely has no regard for human life. So thats at least one former fellow convict with matt one of the two matt and sweat are the two men. John yang as youve been point out, this could be going cold. They dont know exactly they dont know at all where the next leads might take them if at all. Thank you very much to john yang. And now here in washington, this could be a trial balloon, but word out of the white house is that president obama is considering ramping up u. S. Forces in iraq as many as 400 more trainers to try to fix iraqs army which of course turned tail and ran in ramadi the most recent defeat. The final decision could come as early as this afternoon after president obama meets with defense secretary Ashton Carter who was on capitol hill on the house side this morning. Independent senator angus king of maine joins me now, member of the intelligence and Armed Services committees. What would be your response to any decision to send as many as 400 more trainers to Anbar Province and basically reopen a base there . I think the key word is trainers and the key issue is can the Iraqi Security forces do the job. The strategy all long has been clear, its been air support and intelligence from the americans, Coalition Forces but the fighting on the ground has to be iraqi troops. And so far they havent met the test. But, you know theres a lot of temptation, a lot of talk about we should send in more troops and those kinds of things large numbers of combat troops and advanced spotters. The problem is once we do that isis has won. They want this to be a war between america and islam, and we just cant fall into that trap. So i think whats being discussed today at the white house is an important step. We need to have these trained troops. But its not going to be easy. Of course the other piece is that the government in baghdad has to gain the confidence of the sunni tribes in Anbar Province. As long as isis is swimming in a friendly sea, then were just not going to be able to pull it off. Theyre going to have the support. So it really falls on the israeli im sorry, on the Iraqi Security forces and the government in baghdad to prove that theyre a real government of all the people of iraq and not just the shia. So its a very tricky moment. This is a great challenge. Its not easy but i think what theyre talking about in the white house today is exactly the right move at this time. There are others of your colleagues who are more skeptical. Lets just play a little bit of what joe manchin, democrat from West Virginia had to say today on morning joe. I think we just need to look at the past. We were there, what for 12 years or more. Weve had upwards to 100,000 troops in those areas before in afghanistan and iraq and it still is in as bad or worse shape than it was. Are they ever going to have the will to defend themselves. So do you think from talking to your colleagues and youre on two of the key committees, that there will be support for this . I know they dont need to come to you for an appropriation, but i think it would be unlikely to happen if there was strong opposition from the hill. Well i dont think youre going to get strong opposition. I think the criticism there will be critics who say, you know, why are we doing this at all. I think the short answer to that is this isis crowd is very dangerous and it would be better to fight them over there than fight them here. But there are going to be people who say were not doing enough that they want more embedded troops with the iraqi forces they want more forward artillery spotters and those kinds of things. I think thats where the debate is. Its a kind of tactical debate rather than a strategic debate. Andrea, theres no easy answer to this. As i say, a lot of it deposegoes back to the confidence that the sunni tribes in Anbar Province have in baghdad. And if they feel that baghdad is more interested in the shia militias and wants to be a sectarian government, then nothing we do is going to make any difference. This is a real test for a body the new leader of the iraqi government, and its really got to be up to them. As Ashton Carter said last week they have got to have the will to fight. If they dont, thats not something we can train into them. We can give them the tactics and help them with arms and those kinds of things but they have got to decide that their country is worth standing up for. We cant do it for them. Senator angus king thank you so much sir. Thanks for being with us today. For more on this and other related stories, im joined by Washington Post columnist david ignatius. Theres a question as to what is the overall arching strategy here. This is a tactic 400 more trainers, but is this a strategy . And is this enough to get back ramadi to begin to retaking mosul . Well its not sufficient to accomplish those, but i think these are necessary steps on the way. I think president obama was right to look at whats been accomplished in the roughly year since isis broke out in mosul and the administration decided it posed a serious threat. And to see that what had been accomplished wasnt sufficient and needed to be rethought. The idea that 400 people of that incremental step is going to remedy the basic flaws in the strategy i think is wrong. And if the president is just trimming around the edges with numbers, i think hell ending up being disappointed and the country will too. I think senator king put his finger on exactly the right issue. President obamas strategy was to harness the sunni tribes the sunni population in the area around mosul in Anbar Province in the west and get them to lead the fight. He understood from the beginning that theres deep mistrust among sunnis toward the shiiteled government of iraq even under the new Prime Minister abadi. I was talking with sunni tribal leaders this week here in washington. I talked yesterday with the sunni speaker of the iraqi parliament, and ill tell you there is deep mistrust of working with the government. So somehow the president and his advisers have got to find a way to get weapons, to get training more directly to these sunnis who are going to have to carry the fight in mosul and ramadi and all the other sunni areas, or its not going to work. And before we leave this i want to also ask you about iran because Wendy Sherman is now heading back to europe tonight. Theyre going to continue these iran talks. The deadline is june 30th. Despite the broken leg of the secretary of state theyre still going to try to stick to that deadline. Im told that all eggs are in this basket and they really are propelling this decisionmaking towards a deal with iran. What are you hearing . Andrea as usual, your sources are right. I think they really want a deal. I think the big remaining issue, which has to be resolved is whether the iaea will have the right to inspect Iranian Military facilities other facilities if during the life of this agreement that theyre negotiating theres evidence of iranian violations of prohibited activities. The language on that was very murky in the interim deal that they got a few months ago. That needs to be pinned down and i hope Wendy Sherman, whos a tough negotiator, will be prepared to walk away from the table if the iranians dont provide language that makes clear that those inspectors quickly, you know within a matter of 24 48 hours, go into places where suspected activities are taking place, suspected violations otherwise its hard to say that this agreement really is going to be a protection against iranian breakout. And we should point out that the ayatollah and other iranian officials have said they cant go to military sites, perhaps for domestic consumption, all sorts of pullback from the i lane iranian side. The white house has Just Announced that 450 trainers will be going to iraq, so its made official. I hope more announcements are coming because 450 people by themselves are not going to do it. Well, according to the statement from the press secretary just handed to me as we say just in up to 450 additional military personnel to train, advise and assist Iraqi Security forces at the military base in Anbar Province. The president made the decision after a request from the Prime Minister upon the recommendation of ash carter, the secretary of defense and chairman dempsey and with the unanimous support of the National Security team so more on that to come. But thank you very much for your cautionary notes as well. Good to speak to you again, david. Thank you. You bet. And meanwhile, the amtrak investigation, ntsb investigators into last months amtrak crash in philadelphia reported that the amtrak engineer was in fact not talking, texting or otherwise using his cell phone before or during the accident. The agency also says that brandon bostian, the engineer was not using the trains wifi system while at the controls. The train was traveling at 106 miles an hour when it came to the curve where the speed limit was only 50 miles an hour. Eight people were killed in that may 12th crash. More than 200 were injured, many seriously. Up next the fast track. How the debate on trade could impact 2016 with aflcio president right here. This is Andrea Mitchell reports only on msnbc. Can a business have a mind . A subconscious. A knack for predicting the future. Reflexes faster than the speed of thought. Can a business have a spirit . Can a business have a soul . Can a business be. Alive . If you have moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis like me. 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Do you have any concerns about the trade deals and whether that will hurt the competitiveness here . Any trade deal has to produce jobs and raise wages and increase prosperity and protect our security and we have to do our part in making sure we have the capabilities and the skills to be competitive. I have said i want to judge the final agreement. I have been for trade agreements, i have been against trade agreements. Ive tried to make the evaluation depending upon what i thought they would produce, and thats what im waiting to see. Hillary clinton on the campaign trail firmly planting herself on the sidelines of the big trade debate thats creating unique divisions, pitting the president and Congressional Republicans against a lot of democrats in a fight over legislation that the house could vote on friday. It is never an easy lift around here but republicans are continuing to work and were seeing some positive momentum in the right direction. But frankly its time for both parties to get engaged in this to try to make sure its passed. Aflcio president Richard Trumka joins me now. This is your big fight. So where are the votes . Well i think were going to win on friday. I think we have the votes, but well see. It will be a very close vote. Where is Hillary Clinton on this . I dont know but she doesnt get to vote on friday. This is going to be the most stark contrast that those 435 people ever had. Either you vote for working people or for corporate entitlements. Well see what happens. Thats the way youre framing it. Of course the counter argument from the white house is that this helps the overall economy, it helps job growth in manufacturing states they have seen the results. Youve got strong support for it in Silicon Valley. What do you say to that . First of all, if this is good, then lets make it even better so it works for working people. Im sure it has worked for Silicon Valley and im sure its worked for wall street and its worked for corporate america. What our trade policy hasnt done andrea is to work for working people. We worked for five years with this administration trying to get this tpp to work for working people and they havent gotten it there yet. In fact in working for it working to stop it or to change it or improve it in your words in five years, one of the people advocating for it within the last five years was Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. This is Hillary Clinton in 2010 in australia. To continue this progress we are both pressing ahead on something called the transpacific partnership. Its an ambitious, multilateral Free Trade Agreement that would bring together many more nations of the pacific rim. Australia and the United States are helping to lead those negotiations. So she was one of the big advocates in the cabinet for it. How does she now back away from it at some point during the campaign . The same way that we were. For five years we werent opposed to tpp. We worked with it gave a couple hundred suggestions with language and everything to the trade representative and he rejected them. He didnt put any of them in even to our offer. So you look at the final product and say is it good enough or isnt it good enough . Our analysis has been that it falls way short when it comes to protecting workers and the environment and average everyday citizens. Its real good for corporate entitlement but it isnt there. If she makes the same decision like everybody else, she hasnt been privy to those negotiations. At some point she will have to say im either for it or against it because the American Public will demand that. Would that be enough if she continues to kwif kate on it or doesnt come out strongly against it would that be enough for labor to stand on the sidelines and not support her as traditionally they would if she becomes the democratic nominee . We have a whole process we go through to decide who gets endorsed. We have a number of issues. This will be one of the most important issues out there. And its important because this issue, andrea comes from the bottom up. This issue didnt start with washington, d. C. , it started with our members, people that have been hurt by trade. People that havent been hurt by trade so far but fear theyll be hurt by trade. Weve put together the pigbiggest coalition that weve ever seen of environmentalists, civil Rights Groups religious groups academics, economists, everybody saying this is a bad agreement. And so if you dont come down on it one way or another, i think what it does is dampen enthusiasm and dampens the willingness of people to volunteer. Because what were seeing right now is the most lively activity on the ground that weve seen in a lot, a lot of years. Has the president reached out to you . Oh weve talked. And . We disagree on the issue. The president is a good man. And i like him very very much. Hes just wrong on this issue. What about nancy pelosi . I think youll see where shes at and i think shell be on the right side of this issue as far as working people are concerned. Really . Because shes been the president s chief ally on capitol hill on this. Well shes been trying to get the yes just like we have. Unfortunately, they make it impossible to get the yes because they rebuff all the suggestions we had to make this a bill that works for working people and not corporate america. To be continued. Well talk on friday i hope. Thank you very much, Richard Trumka. Meanwhile, the mckinney, texas, Police Officer who was caught on camera taking down a 15yearold girl in a bathing suit at a pool party has resigned. 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Nationwide is on your side well there you see it former has speaker Denny Hasterts first appearance at court in chicago turning into a media frenzy on tuesday. As the man who was once second in line for the presidency went in to plead not guilty to charges that he broke banking laws and lied to the fbi. Nbc justice correspondent Pete Williams joins me now. This was just media frenzy is the only way to describe it. But the bottom line is that despite all of the underlying issues here with which hes not charged, which, you know if proved would be horrifying to say the least, hes basically charged with a very arcane violation of the banking law and with perjury. And how does that stack up in terms of the normal kind of you know fbi case and prosecution . Normally in these cases where somebody is accused of violating the banking laws theyre accused of trying to cover up something that was illegal. Now, what he may have ultimately done may have possibly been illegal at the time but cant be prosecuted now. Nonetheless, the government believes it has a good case here. It was all coming to light because of the bank rules that say the banks have to tell the government, the treasury department, when somebody is moving around a lot of money because thats often a trip wire to discover money laundering. So he was making these 50,000 withdrawals. The banks finally said after he had done this 15 times what goes on here. They said, you know weve got this rule that you have to report anything any transaction over 10,000, so he started taking out just less than 10,000. The government said that is violating a law called structuring to try to evade this trip wire on the reporting requirements. When the fbi came and said what are you doing with this money, he said im keeping it for myself, i dont trust the banks. They thought that doesnt pass the laugh test so hes charged with those two violations not what he may have done to individual a or others way back when. And to those who would say its my money, i can move it around and why am i being dragged through this you know because the specific charge is lying about wanting to keep my own money and move it around. Well thats true it is his own money. And thats a question, if it ever came before a jury would that be an appealing argument. The problem is if it came before the jury theres whatever he did, the misconduct with individual a. Most of the spokes who do White Collar Crime cases like this one say they would be surprised if this ever does go to trial. They think this is probably going to be some sort of guilty plea. Some of them are surprised there hasnt been a plea already. But to have a plea you have to have the government agree to it and we dont know what the back and forth has been if any. Fascinating case. Thank you so much Pete Williams. You bet. And in colorado the theater shooting trial of james holmes is back under way this morning after the judge dismissed three jurors for ignoring his instructions by watching News Coverage of the trial and telling two other jurors about it. Holmes is charged with killing 12 people and injuring 70 in the 2012 shooting spree. Three alternates will now become jurors. Up next survivor story. Joan lunden joins us to talk about her new effort to help patients and families fighting breast cancer. Youre watching msnbc. Defiance is in our bones. New citracal pearls. Delicious berries and cream. Soft, chewable, calcium plus vitamin d. Only from citracal. Audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. The only thing left to fear is you imagination. Nissan. Innovation that excites. Is there such a thing as a sure thing in business . Some say buy gold. Others say buy soybeans. 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Its also very effective because its one of the newer drugs and the doctors feel that with all this chemotherapy surgery and radiation i should be totally fine when this is all over. A year ago, longtime abc news anchorwoman joan lunden was at the beginning of her journey, her treatment after being diagnosed with an aggressive form of breast cancer. Now after surgery, nine months of chemotherapy six weeks of daily radiation treatments joan lunden is cancerfree. Shes launched alive, an Online Network and community to help patients survivors and their families struggling with the disease. Joan lunden joins me now from new york. Joan looking great. How do you feel . Im feeling great. I got my very first checkup this week and it was the all clear. It lets you exhale. So im officially part of the world of the survivors. And in that world, youre working now to help others all of us survivors, who are always going through that anxiety about what is this pain what is this lump, this bump you know what are you going through as you proceed, and youre trying to help us navigate. You know, going public with this oneyear battle as i started hearing back from women all across the country, that response and hearing all the roadblocks and the frustrations and their inability to get access to care and just their everyday questions. What are the side effects . What should i expect from the chemo or the radiation . That was it changed the trajectory of my life quite frankly, and it led me to the conclusion that i should build this online community. And thats what i did. You know its a new media platform as opposed to broadcast television. I could never do on broadcast television what im doing in this community, allowing women to upload videos and share their information about whats going on in their community and then giving them my all access pass because i can go into any expert, but they cant necessarily do that. So im kind of giving them that pass and taking them into all the Research Labs and telling them whats the best treatment available today for the kind of cancer they have. And what kind of feedback are you getting . Incredible feedback. And you know whats funny, every night i get to look at the analytics. Its kind of like looking at the ratings if youre at the network. But i see exactly what theyre watching and i see all of their questions come in. The thing thats gotten the most views is how my mammogram didnt catch my cancer. And so i think for a lot of women its the first time that theyre understanding that they can go for a mammogram every year. But if they have really dense breast tissue a mammogram, the more dense it is the less likely a mammogram is ever going to see their cancer. So i dont know if every woman was aware of that before and there was a study out that showed that 95 of american women do not know their breast density. You know that old they always tell us we should know our numbers. Its usually your cholesterol level and your blood pressure. Well every woman as soon as she starts going for mammograms should know her breast density because if its high she needs probably another test. Joan lunden again, what a Great Service and thank you so much. You are helping to educate the vast public and thank you for that. Come join me on alive with joan. I will, absolutely. Catch this picture of a hospitalbound secretary of state tweeting out a picture. 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Weve seen this before with romney, we saw it with obama actually when he was running in 08. What is the strategy, because he hasnt announced yet. I think its all of these trips as you point out, andrea and basically everyone whos a serious contender winds up doing it particularly going to europe. Well i may not have all that much on the ground Foreign Policy experience but look im over here and i can speak credibly on the world stage. I think thats the hardest hurdle for a lot of these men and women to clear because typically outside the president , maybe youre the head of the Senate Foreign relations committee. Most governors and even a lot of senators, its just not a realm that they have all that much experience in. Jeb is one of those people without all that much experience, so i think its hurdleclearing, but youre right, i continue to be amazed at the extent to which hes still not in the race and we have a campaign shakeup. Its remarkable that that can happen. Its very interesting. Meanwhile, marco rubio, one of his chief competitors, especially being hometown florida, is facing a whole challenge from the New York Times. Ann, the whole series of reports about his finances working both ways. Hes fundraising off of it. Hes basically saying to conservative republicans who hate the conventional media, look, the New York Times is coming after me. Is there an issue here for him with his finances . There are a couple of issues. That was a totally fascinating story the times did charting his history with money, going back to almost to his student days. And showing where he had made a series of bad or questionable decisions and some of the ways that he had tried to explain himself. I also thought it was really interesting that his backers are saying, yeah this is a selfmade man. This is a guy whose family didnt have a dime. They didnt have money to manage. Hes now in the position that a lot of americans are in of trying to figure that out and trying to make good decisions. But if he goes a whole lot more of the distance here it will definitely be an issue people ask him about. Can he ballet budget. Speaking of balancing a budget chris and anne annes story today is about how rookie mook, the Campaign Manager for Hillary Clinton is trying to balance the budget by trying to get john podesta to ride the bus instead of taking the plane or the train to brooklyn where his family lives and you went along with him. Yeah we had a nice bus ride with the Clinton Campaign chairman last week. He was a good sport and let me and a Washington Post photographer go with him and kind of document it. It was a way to show that this budgetminded, tightfisted mentality that the campaign is putting forward is partly out of necessity because they are confining operating expenses to the primary money that they can raise themselves during the primary. No super pac and so forth. So theres a fairly limited pot of money, and its also partly for show. She wants to be able to show that shes running a very disciplined campaign thats different in every way from the one she ran in 2008. And theres you know theres a certain element of everybody going to summer camp here right . Its a bunch of young kids in an office full of broken furniture and they all have to take the 30 bus. And chris, the other message is to contributors, to donors were not going to be spending 12 million this time on mark penn and other rich consultants. Right. I was going to say youre always in some ways fighting sort of the last battle entry and one of the last battles was i remember this in the spring of 2008 the story was shes sort of running out of money. Shes maxed out all her big donors, theyre spending all this money. The idea that the campaign was this profit venture that was doling out tons of money to people like mark penn this is an attempt to go the exact opposite route, though my guess is shes still going to spend lots and lots of money. Chris and anne thank you both so much. Meanwhile we have an update on the manhunt for the two convicted killers who escaped that maximum security prison in upstate new york five days ago. State police now are trying to generate new leads. They have placed new alerts for the two men on 50 digital billboards across the northeast, new York New Jersey massachusetts and pennsylvania warning that both escapees are considered to be a danger to the public. If located, do not approach them, contact 911 immediately. In and around the town of dannemora this hour state troopers have set up checkpoints, talking to drivers looking for any new leads. They are also going doortodoor looking for leads. 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So if you have a heart start optimizing your nutrition with my nutrition. Planters. Nutrition starts with nut. So maybe youve been tested a lot more and a lot earlier in life than many other young people. Maybe you have more scars than they do. Maybe you have days when you feel more tired than someone your age should ever really feel. But graduates, tonight i want you to understand that every scar that you have is a reminder not just that you got hurt but that you survived. Michelle obama delivering a message of resilience in the face of tragedy during her commencement address yesterday at King College Prep yesterday at chicago. It would have been Graduation Day for hadiya pendleton, who was shot and killed in january 2013 not far from the obamas chicago home and only days after she had marched with her band in the inaugural parade. Violence is just one of the challenges facing young people trying to get an education. But a new report from Americas Promise Alliance education advocates show that the country is making progress toward achieving the president s goal of 90 High School Graduation rate by 2020. Im joined now by the president and ceo of americas promise, reyawna thomas a student, and rishawn, a recent college graduate. Welcome to all of you. John lets just talk about the big picture nationally. Theres still holes in this picture. I think its a mixed picture with lots of good news. The High School Graduation rate has actually increased by 10 Percentage Points over the last decade. Thats a pretty remarkable amount of progress. It means that over that decade an additional 1. 8 million young people graduate fredd from high school on time and were on track to that 90 High School Graduation rate. The more troubling news the shadow side is that theres still big disparities that concern us greatly. Disparities between middle and upper income students and low income students. A 15point disparity between low income students and other students. Kids of color are still graduating at much lower numbers. And special needs kids are still graduating at much lower numbers. So we know we can do it. The progress tells us that this can be done. We need to stay focused on this issue and this opportunity and focus those efforts on the kids who are still being left behind. And lesean and riyanna are the good news part of the picture. Lesean, you had trouble along the way getting through high school and now youve graduated from college. Tell me about the hurdles along the way and what turned it around for you. Growing up in a single parent home theres a lot of trying times. I found myself not being in the School System i wasnt being challenged, i was dealing with issues at home and i didnt have the capacity to stay focused in class. But when i was introduced to a program called youthville i was introduced to many caring adults. The Program Director was my mentor. Because i felt like they cared about me i was able to open up. In the meantime i also got to earn my g. E. D. I was able to get some job training and it also helped me develop my leadership skills which propelled me to a path of graduating high school i mean graduating umass and serving on my juvenile Justice Council for my state. Which is remarkable. And influencing your younger sister, rihanna, you looked up to him and that to do motivating to you and you were such a good student. Yes. So youre at Long Island University . Yes. Im going for diagnostic medical sonography. I dont want if i want to do nursing or sonography but i want to do both. What is your message to other people thinking about dropping out of high school, which is such a gateway to all opportunity, just getting through high school as a first step. Yes its not worth it. Education, once you have your education, no one can take it from you. And the fact that you and your brother are now launched this way, and youre trying to mentor other young people as well. You know, how hard is it to keep focus . Because theres so many distractions, so many challenges along the way, to say nothing of the financial impediments. It is a challenge, but ive learned to develop resiliency and keep my eye on the product. Even when i went to college, i lost my father in the middle of that process and that was a very trying time for me. Because he was one of my main mentors who wanted me to excel in education, i stuck on the path and completed it in his honor. But i think that the youth just have to realize that education is truly the key out of poverty. Once youre able to get through that process, its not easy. The benefits that you reap are just tremendous. Thats why im here today. So just really having young people just really realize their own potential would be well you and your sister are the greatest examples. John, i could say that ive been involved with your organization started by colin powell but its just to take each step at a time and to really get the community involved. Well, i think the stories that rihanna and lesean tell tell us something really important. Yes, it remains true that education is the path to opportunity, but so many things stand in the way of that. And we as a country, as communities, as families as individuals, have to be aware of those challenges that young people are facing and meet those challenges, whether its caring adults or creating safety good positive health and the opportunity to give back which you hear from lesean as well. So all of those things as a package is what makes it possible for young people to move forward. To be continued. Well keep our eye on this and thank you so much for both of you and john coming in. That does it for us. This edition of Andrea Mitchell reports ending on a hopeful report. Follow us on facebook and twitter. Thomas roberts joins me on whats coming up on msnbc live. Hi and rea. Up next breaking news as authorities pull out all the stops to try to find two escaped murderers. No less than 50 digital billboards now being posted featuring the photos of the men who pulled off this brazen prison break. Will it encourage new leads . Well dig into that. Plus the lawyer of the mckinney, texas, Police Officer at the center of the Pool Party Incident gone viral will be speaking out one day after that officer resigned from the force. And breaking news as the white house announces president obamas additional actions in the campaign against isis in iraq. Live briefings from the white house and the state department in the next hour of msnbc live. Stay with us. Audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. The only thing left to fear is you imagination. Nissan. Innovation that excites. Dude totinos blasted rolls. Sweet. 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