Did any of you watch that convention in cleveland . I mean, something has gone terribly wrong when one speaker says vote your conscience and gets bood. I mean, i never thought i would say these words, but ted cruz was right. If you were betting on a last second shock from Hillary Clinton last night, then im sorry, but you lost some money. Good morning, welcome to a. M. Joy, coming to you live from Independence Hall in philadelphia were the Democratic National convention is about to kick off, where the party will officially nominate Hillary Clinton for president and as we found out last night, virginia senator tim kaine for veep. Kaine has been in National Politics for two decades and the two are expected to appear as running mates in a short time in miami. Well bring that live to you when it happens. Clinton Campaign Senior spokesperson karen finney and the Washington Posts jonathan capehart. The campaign decided not to surprise us. This is what weve been expecting for months. Weve been driving each other crazy trying to surprise each other. I would maybe the buzz weve heard about tim kaine over the last several months could have been a deflection and maybe there would be a surprise, a tom perez, an Elizabeth Warren. Why in the end did secretary clinton pick tim kaine . A couple of things. Number one, it was really a governing decision. She wanted somebody she felt like on day one could step right into the job. Obviously tim kaine is a lifelong progressive, a civil rights lawyer. One of his first cases that he actually worked on was housing discrimination, won 100 million lawsuit against nationwide. If you look at the values, one of the things i thought was interesting about tim kaine and hillary, when she first got out of law school at yale, went to work working for children, and tim kaine went to honduras for a year rather than going to a big fancy firm. They have values they share. He has a strong record as governor, and is the only person who will come to the job having been a mayor, a governor, a senator. He understands the needs of our cities, which is critical in this election. A lot of things to like about tim kaine. Well have the big biographical launch. Its interesting, jonathan, how she opened it out, its a governing decision. Ive discussed it, Rachel Maddow has talk about it. There are two ways to choose a vp. You can choose as a campaign tactic, theyre going to win you a state or a demographic, or a governing pick, i want this person down the hall from me as i govern from the white house, and it seems to be the latter. Heres what 5 38 said, they said hes a wash, hes not especially liberal but no blue dog democrat, hes a white guy although he does speak spanish. Hes a generic democrat. At least according to anecdotal evidence out there, especially among progressives, he doesnt move the ball forward for Hillary Clinton. If all youre thinking about is winning the election, you look at the holes, who do i get to shore me up so i win in november and nun wethen well about the governing thing later. The key phrase that keeps coming to mind about the hillary selection of tim kaine, when she said Something Like ive been blessed or cursed with the responsibility gene, here is a person who is running for president , who is thinking, okay, if i win, ive got to be able to work, and i need to be able to work with summon womeon knows what the hell theyre doing. With tim kaine, as karen said, he was a mayor, he was a governor, hes in the senate. Hes one with governing experience, legislating experience, and someone who she thinks if anything were to unfortunately happen to her, could step into the role. Were talking about someone running for president of the United States. After looking at what we not a big deal. Yeah. What we went through in cleveland and the republican nominee where everything is a reality tv show, to look at a ticket where you can look and feel confident that they could walk into the white house one other point about tim kaine, he was a very popular governor when he was governor of virginia. And you may remember, when he ran for governor, people said, no way a democrat who is progunsafety and antideath penalty can win in a red state, no way, no way. And he won virginia, he was very popular. I actually think there will be additional benefits. I think he will be very helpful in virginia. Also when he was mayor of richmond, he was seen as somebody who really bridged the racial divide and did a lot of really powerful things in that community to bridge those divides. I actually think hes being given a lot of people dont know about him, and the more people learn about him theyre going to like him and theyll realize it was a great decision in terms of a governing pick. Winning virginia is no small thing, its very upon. But let me argue the other side a little bit. Essentially the kind of response i think from a lot of progressives was somewhere between meh and being actually upset, feeling that they were essentially set aside by the Hillary Clinton campaign, theyre being taken for granted. Let me show you a poll from Monmouth University that came out before the pick. It asked which pick would make you more likely to support Hillary Clinton. At the top, Bernie Sanders, that was never going to happen, clearly he was never being vetted. Elizabeth warren, 24 . Here is somebody that would have excited progressives. Cory booker at 13, al franken. Theres tim kaine way down at the bottom. He was never going to excite progressives. Have progressives havent taken for granted with this pick . Have progressives been taken for granted . I think the answer is no. But but then you said with this pick. I keep going back to, one, the platform, her candidacy, her stances have moved as a result of progressives in the party, shifted leftward a bit. But also, again, shes looking to win the white house and then to govern. If what you have is a progressive agenda, you are going to get it if you have a president Hillary Clinton, you aint gonna get it if its a President Trump. Polls were taken before people started to learn about him. Thats true. Everybody is focusing on a couple of things here and there in his record rather than 100 prochoice voting record, f rating from the nra. Remember, hillary has made gun Safety Measures a centerpiece of this campaign. Criminal justice reform, reinstating Voting Rights for felons. Thats something he used his executive order as governor to do. The more people learn about him, i think i get it. Just sayin. I have to get this in in the last minute. On an important issue to democrats, one of the issues that trump is attempting to poach democrats on is this issue of the big banks where Elizabeth Warren is very strong. Tim kaine, while in the running for vp, called for deregulation of the banks. It was actually not the big banks. The letter he signed on to was for Community Banks and credit unions. Community banks, i think of Industrial Bank in my neighborhood in washington, d. C. , has been serving the black community for a hundred years. Banks like that, the issue they were raising, that bank can never compete with wells fargo or bank of america. These are the banks that are lending to florists, blackowned businesses in my neighborhood. Lets not just put, you know, the talking points out there. Lets make sure we know the facts when were talking about deregulating the big banks. Remember, he was also a very strong defender of the cfpb. I think that the issue just generally, and then well have to leave on this, but ill give you one more shot at this, you guys are doing a great job, the thing that has most animated this election on the democratic side has been the sense of a rigged system, the sense that wall street got away with murder essentially with what they did to the economy in 2008, and the revolutionary fervor in the party has been on the left. By picking somebody who is a centrist, he doesnt get you young voters, he doesnt get women. We dont know that yet, come on, its been a day. He doesnt get the people upset at wall street. There are a lot of things that animated the party. If were going to go down this route, i mean actually im not going to go down that route. Its water under the bridge. I was going to talk about the nra and a certain other candidate running who is more cozy with the nra. Look, i think karen is right. Senator kaine is one who people are going to get to know. And i know senator kaine, ive talked to senator kaine. Theres things i read about him in his profiles in the Washington Post and the New York Times that i didnt know, that i think for the base theyre going to like. I did my own little twitter poll we vote by twitter polls. 58 of my votes so far are so excited about tim kaine. Ive bottom 34 who are meh. The key, only 8 are saying im not feeling it. All right. And my competing twitter poll, 189 votes excited, 39 okay with it, 44 disappointed. Im going to take host privilege and leave on that note. Thank you, karen finney and jonathan capehart. Youll be back in the show. Thank you, guys. Coming up, its back, the political white whale, pennsylvania. vo stank face. A universal expression of disgust, often caused by inadequate cat litter. If you or your a loved one suffers from stank face, the cure is tidy cats. Its new and improved with guaranteed tidylock protection that locks away odors. So you dont have to face one more stank face. 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They may lean more conservative but theyre democrats. Its not just philadelphia only. And i think that when people listen to and try to digest what trump says on a regular basis, i dont know how you take him seriously. Will they be blue this time . Because if you look at the philadelphia suburbs, that is plum Hunting Ground for donald trump. If you look at places like pittsburgh obviously even more so because of issues like trade. The latest polling, nbc did a policy that showed Hillary Clinton up over donald trump by a comfortable margin july 5th through 10th, 45 to 36 . Quinnipiac did a poll that showed donald trump a little bit over Hillary Clinton. People did question the way they composed the sample on that poll. But could it be that deposition are missing how angry a lot of suburban white voters are about things like trade . But you also have suburban white female voters who are not going to put up with any of the nonsense that hes talking about and any of the conservative leaning that they want to go to. If you look at that one commercial that clinton is doing with him, Donald Trumps own words, with children looking at the television, to me thats very, very forceful and very important, that people understand, this is what this man actually says. Its not like just a campaign where were saying he says this. Hes actually saying it. If you look at those clips, i mean, theyre atrocious. And i think that suburban republican women especially have no time for that. And so you think the sort of safe spot for democrats in terms of your city, in terms of philadelphia, is those philadelphia suburbs, white suburban women, you think theyll go with hillary. Im hoping that they will. First of all, its historymaking, the first woman president of the United States, theres so value there, obviously, with women. I also think women, whether theyre republicans or democrats, generally want to be fair, dont like angry, mean, nasty people and dont want those folks representing their children. I think theyll go forward and vote their conscience. I think hillary will be great. Does tim kaine help in a place like philadelphia . I love him. Im jesuitcreateducated, jesuittrained, hes of the jesuit people. We feel our lives arent successful unless were actually helping someone else. His philosophical bent will be wonderful for us. Youre a mayor of a very diverse city. Philadelphia has a large africanamerican population. When you go into those centers and campaign, what are the things that you hear back that votes in those parts of the city tell you . I will go with my experience with children in prek, first grade, second grade, mostly africanamerican students are in there. They say, who are you voting for for president , i say Hillary Clinton, they all cheer. I assume what theyre hearing at home is Hillary Clinton and not donald trump. What issues matter the most for voters in philadelphia . The whole concept of taking america back. From whom and for whom . Donald trump and his supporters want to go back to the old days where you couldnt sit at the lunch counter or ride on the bus. This is a brushback on barack obama. They never thought a black man would be elected president of the United States, and he was, and hes done a fantastic job, bringing this country back from the brink of financial ruin and other things too. They dont want that to happen again. I think race is the underlying issue in all this stuff when it comes to immigration. If these were white european immigrants, he wouldnt be yelling. But theyre brown people. If they were white european immigrants, there wouldnt be his wife. The population density, youve got the whole center of the state of pennsylvania that is incredibly rural, very conservative. And that is a large physical mass in the state. But its not a lot of people. Theres more deer in some counties in pennsylvania than there are folks. I think the Population Centers will win the day and Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States. You think that the part thats red is not the growing part of the state . Not at all. You look at philadelphia, we have growing millennials, growing immigrants. Thats what the future of this country is, and thankfully. Philadelphia mayor jim kenney, thank you so much, its been a pleasure. Coming up next, i ask philadelphia voters what they think it means to make America Great again. Stay with us. I approve this message. Donald trump i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldnt lose any voters, okay . And you can tell them to go f themselves you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. You gotta see this guy. Ahh, i dont know what i said, ahh. 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The Civil Rights Movement may not have been so unifying. Democrat Lyndon Johnson vetoed that bill three times while the republicans passed it. No, he actually pushed the bill through. But okay. No, Lyndon Johnson signed it. Personal attacks against me, and im not even running. What i hear is hold on. What i think when i hear him say, you know, we want to take our country back or we want to make America Great again, there were times when i wasnt allowed to sit here. Women were not allowed to speak. So when i hear that, thats for me, thats what i think. I think taking it back from who, who are we taking it back from . Why isnt it great now . Because we have a black president . Were about to have a female president , so its not going to be great because we represent the world now . To me, we represent the world now. Other countries look the people that are in charge look like everybody in this room. Lets go to raheem. I would just caution everyone, and because this is something that ive been pushing that is very important. Whoever is elected, half the people are going to want them and half the people dont want them. Thats always. Thats always, but youve got to understand, youre going to have to govern for everyone. And at the end of the day, you know, it might sound corny, but we are all americans. We dont have to necessarily agree on everything. But we have to agree on the future of america. Something thats missing in this conversation, its missing in the conversation when you take these hard lines and you demonize everybody on the other side, as if barack obama never done anything right, or as if donald trump never done anything right. Its just ridiculous. I think its really childish. And i think weve got to grow up our conscience about politics so we can have a better america, because at the end of the day, were going to have children who are going to come here after us. What are they going to inherit . Its just ridiculous. Can i comment on make America Great again . I think every ascribes to that comment whatever it is they think about this candidate. As you heard, i am really undecided as to where im going to be voting. I think i share that sentiment that america has lost its footing in the world stage, that our president , president obama, talked about leading from behind, and i think weve succeeded at that. And i think the world wants us to lead from in front, whether it is on the economy, whether on large world decisions, whether it is on the military. And so what i think he says make America Great again, what he is harkening back to is the sense that we were World Leaders that were appreciated for the stance that we took in the world and wanting to take us back to that place where we had that kind of moral authority and military authority that people want. Well, thanks to all of the great panelists who spoke to us. 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Nearly 180,000 Illegal Immigrants with criminal records ordered deported from our country are tonight roaming free to threaten peaceful citizens. [ audience booing ] one such border crosser was released and made his way to nebras nebraska. There he ended the life of an innocent young girl named sarah root. Lets bring back jonathan capehart, and joining me, white house aide David Watkins and david corn, Washington Bureau chief from mother jones. Panel of doom, because that was one dark street. To illustrate the point, to show what words were used the most often in the speech, if you can see it, well put it up on the small screen here, country, lots of country, lots of america. But look at violence. Look how big violence was. This was a speech that was about what i call the brown phantom menace. How does that help the Republican Party . I think donald trump wants to win the election in november, thats his challenge now. The way he feels he can best win it is by scaring the bejesus out of everyone . Its true, i remember jaws came out, about people getting eaten by a shark, people flock to those films. But it didnt get jaws elected president. If you look at eisenhower, the cando spirit of the country, i like ike, positive, you look at Ronald Reagan, both of his two runs, a we can do it kind of message. I have never quite frankly seen a successful candidate for president run on doom and gloom except richard nixon. George w. Bush won as a compassionate conservative. His dad wanted to be kinder and gentler. Even when nixon ran for president , he was kind of an angry fellow but wasnt capitalizing on the anger the way donald trump is. Weve never had a president who has been pessimistic but has exploited fear and loathing as much as trump is trying to do. The speech leaked a few hours before he gave it. I ran into a republican speechwriter who was walking with his head down saying, i cant believe this. And theres no mention of god or religion in this speech. Or the men and women serving in the military. Yes. It was almost mandatory for any republican speech. It was all about violence and trump and i will protect you. It did feel like a speech that spoke to the fears of a very particular part of the country, white men, and women but mostly men, who feel there is this menace everywhere and that the country is deep and dark and horrible. This conversation is reminding me of something you said at the top of the show when we were having that discussion about senator tim kaine and how this is a base selection. If you believe that this is a base election, then that speech plays right into that. If its all about turning out your base and your base is frightened, theyre scared about where this country is going, then thats the speech for them. Thats how you excite them. And being in the hall that night, i have to say, i agree with Michael Steele when he said, it read trumps speech read i was horrified when i read that speech, i was agape, i cannot believe im reading this. In that hall, it didnt come off nearly as scary as it read. Because he read it so slowly. And so long, my god. But the people in that hall ate it up. There are a lot more people out in the country who agree with that unbelievably dark and pessimistic view of this country than we care to admit. Theres a reason why he won the nomination over 16 other guys. Let me give you, to that very point, president obama reacted to the speech, and i think he reacted the way a lot of the other america, because we really are sort of two countries if the way that we view the state of our nation. President obama reacted to the speech this way. Lets take a listen. This was a News Conference with the mexican president. This idea that america is somehow on the verge of collapse, this vision of violence and chaos everywhere, doesnt recall gibe with the experience of most people. I mean, i hope people, the next morning, walked outside and the birds were chirping and the sun was out. And always on the same page, david plouffe, the guy who helped run the 08 campaign for president obama, he tweeted, was surprised to see the sun and hear the birds this morning, thought death and destruction were imminent. You really thought if you opened the door, you would see a violent melee outside the door. Do we really have two Different Countries in terms of our experience . There is a lot of justifiable anxiety throughout the country about the future. Globalization, economic issues. Even though unemployment has gone down and things arent as bad as they were at the end of the bush cheney years, theres a lot of reasons for people to worry about their economic futures, economic security, getting good jobs for their kids and being able to maintain the middle class or upper middle class. Those are legitimate fears and worries. Trump speaks to them a little bit, but he really goes for the emotional, passionate, youre about to be killed tomorrow type of fear. And so he is merging two things here. And it did play in the audience. Some people who are worried can listen to that and pick out different aspects that may resonate with them. But at the same time, he offers really very little planning or proposal what to do. His line that when im elected, january 20th, 2017, you will be safe, is he the police chief of every city in this country . I mean, its basically kind of a latin american strong man approach to i will protect you. And some people might, you know, go for that. Others might say, wheres the beef . And people have described it as putinesque, sort of an authoritarian approach that you are doomed unless you elect me. Thank god he didnt take off his shirt. I just want to step back a moment. Violence being such a big and prominent word in the speech, the reality is, as much anxiety as that speech was stoking about, you know, unlawful migrants supposedly being violent, the actual crime rate is down. Actual crime is down. Even violence against Police Officers is down. So the facts that he was representing are not even true, joe. I understand that. I understand what david corn is saying as well in terms of offering Real Solutions and saying what youre going to do. What donald trump does well is he understands ratings. But his ratings were lower than john mccains in 2008. Tv ratings. The tv ratings were down from the 2008 address from john mccain. He knows how to keep the attention of an audience. This speech i think kept the attention of the audience. But a smaller audience that john mccain got. Heres the point. Last week, over the last two weeks, weve seen two different visions of america. Last week, the Republican Convention, gloom, doom, harm, murder, mayhem. The week before that, we had louisiana, minnesota, dallas. The country really did feel like it was being torn asunder. But heres the thing. President obama, president bush, Hillary Clinton, senator tim scott, republican of south carolina, individually gave speeches on race, politics, and leadership that spoke to the america i know, the america thats hopeful, that wants to push forward. Its an incredible two weeks. I have to get to this, were running out of time. David duke. He came out with a huge endorsement of the speech, he said great trump speech, america first, stop wars, defeat the corrupt elites, he basically endorsed the speech and then announced that he was going to be running for president. Im sorry, for senate. Lets listen to david dukes announcement. Im overjoyed to see donald trump and most americans brave most of the issues that ive championed for years. I mean, joe watkins, your party has to be horrified that hes glommed on. I am. I dont know any republican worth his or her salt who likes david duke. Its because of donald trump. For some people, law and order, thats what George Wallace said in 1968 when he was running for the presidency, or maybe it was 72. In any case nixon said it too. It means Different Things to different people. Were out of time, unfortunately. Were going to have to get more thoughts, because joe, jonathan, and david will be back later in the show, save those thoughts, you guys will be back. Coming up, more from philly voters on what matters to them. Stay with us. If you need advice for your business, legalzoom has your back. Our trusted network of attorneys has provided guidance to over 100,000 people just like you. Visit legalzoom today. 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I asked that very question to voters here in philadelphia. I am going to tell you the name of a politician and you tell me the first word that comes to mind. Were going to start with you, well come right to you, daphne. Hillary clinton. Privileged. Dan . Dependable. Michelle . Professional politician. Raheem . Privileged. Jack . Establishment. Qualified. Ready. Establishment. Resilie resilient. Experienced. I will round this out the way we started. Lets go with donald trump. Daphne . Brilliant. Dan . Phony. Unique. Confident. America. Liar. Bully. Working class billionaire. Bigot. Insightful. And not the good insightful. Back with me, republican strategist joe watkins and joining me is a democratic strategist and Senior Adviser to moveon. Org. The donald trump answers were very polarized. The Hillary Clinton answers, really mostly hovered around establishment but also experience and conceding that she was president ial. What do you guys see as strategists . This is what we see, the country is pretty polarized right now. I think the candidates certainly on the republican side, donald trump has to do a better job of reaching out to people that look like me, you know . Im a republican. I work for a republican president , im an africanamerican man, a black man. When i go on the street, if i get stopped by a police officer, they dont say, oh, republican. No, they see a black guy. So america has to be about people who look like me too. And hes got to address that in a better way. And its got to be a way that doesnt polarize, doesnt divide people. Thats been tough so far. For Hillary Clinton, this is her week, she has to come out and reintroduce herself, shes been around for so long. What do those responses tell you about what she needs to do in order to win over the reluctant part of the electorate. I think its pretty easy after that republican National Convention. That was insane. I would love to see what these voters think, that was pre. I think if she could show the contrast of how negative and just polarizing the Republican Convention was. They basically just spoke to their base. She needed to almost make an affirmative case for herself. Hillary clinton, and ill be honest and say that i think partly the medias fixation on her in a negative way, weve shown shes gotten the most negative coverage than anyone else, but it has produced sort of a feedback loop, shes untrustworthy, something is sellnsell seminefarious and then doesnt turn out to be anything. Doesnt she need to fix that rather than saying donald trump is horrible . Absolutely. The email situation over the past two weeks was horrible. She needs to focus. Shes going to have president obama, michelle obama, Vice President joe biden. Shell have leaders of the Democratic Party out there speaking for her and putting themselves out there and saying, we can trust her, right . So thats going to be very, very important, which we didnt see on the republican side. But yes, she has to kind of almost reintroduce herself, right . Two things that need to happen you have to a convention, the first thing is unifying a party, and also talking beyond your base. If she can do that, that will be important. Thats what tim kaine brings as well, right, he brings that to the ticket. Thats an interesting point about talking past your base. Joe, one of the reasons in my opinion tim kaine was picked is this opportunity that the Clinton Campaign sees to talk to people like you. I think of you as more of a bush republican, reagan republican, the throwback Republican Party that we remember, that wanted to expand itself. Bigger tent. Absolutely, the jack kemps of the world, the George Herbert walker bushes, even george w. Bush. Does Hillary Clinton with tim kaine have any opportunity at all to get republicans in that vein to take a look at her . I think tim kaine was a very good pick for secretary clinton, a very smart pick. Some may grumble, progressives, but ultimately theyll support her strongly because of Bernie Sanders and senator warren. I think she knows that latinos are already behind her in a large way. How deep is the antipathy to Hillary Clinton really . For both parties its about enthusiasm as well. Its not just a matter of what the polling data says, its a matter of who shows up on election day. If you poll people theyll say, i vote for the democrat, i vote for the republican. But on election day, if its snowing, are you going to get out of your house to vote . In philadelphia there were precincts where there was 100 turnout for president obama. Enthusiasm matters. But you didnt answer my question. Is there an opening for republicans to take a look at Hillary Clinton . I think there is. For some republicans, theyll look very carefully. They may not like Hillary Clinton, they may not be a fan of Hillary Clintons, but theyll look and make a decision based on who they think is the best to lead the country going forward. Same true on the democratic side, donald trump has a chance to reach out and grab democrats who feel disaffected, and independents. How would she exploit that opportunity, to pull republicans without losing her progressive base . Just looking at pennsylvania, you were talking about philly and 100 people came out, especially in 2008 and probably in 2012. But you also have the philly suburbs, montgomery and delaware counties which are called the swing counties. And so heres the thing. They keep talking about how pennsylvania is turning much more republican gradually, like about. 4 , because of the western part of pennsylvania. And the thing about that is, every disaffected blue collar manufacturer type union member voter that donald trump gets, he loses about two women, right . Just i took a long way to get to your answer, but your answer is hes going to lose women. Hes not getting africanamericans. Hes not getting latinos. So its going to be tough for him. Thank you very much, joe watkins will be back in the hour. Thank you to karine jeanpierre. Thank you very much. Coming up, doom, doom, doom on you. What would america look like under a President Trump . And the democrats new ticket, clinton kaine. Well bring that to you live on a. M. Joy when we come back. Im so frustrated. I just want to find a used car without getting ripped off. You could start your search at the allnew carfax. Com that might help. Show me the carfax. Now the car you want and the history you need are easy to find. Show me used trucks with one owner. Pretty cool. [laughs] ah. Ahem. Show me the carfax. Start your used car search and get free carfax reports at the allnew carfax. Com. Foand millions moremericans lwho feel its effects. 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Joy live from very, very hot Independence Hall, the site of the Democratic National convention in philadelphia. Were minutes away from the official introduction of tim kaine at a miami rally. Were looking forward to a week featuring every democratic star we could probably think of. Lets look back to the highlights and low lights of the republican National Convention of 2016. This convention will come to order. The eayes have it and the resolution is agreed to. Point of order point of order you are ignoring delegates who have been elected to this convention i dont know what their thinking is. Want chair has found insufficient support for the request for a record vote. This is not a meeting of the Republican National committee. This is a meeting of brownshirts. Islamic extremeist terrorism we are the champions you work hard for what you want in life. You work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond and you do what you say. That your word is your bond, that you do what you say youre going to do. That you treat people with respect. That you treat people with dignity and respect. Let us commence the call of the roll of the states. The great state of alabama. The great state of california. The great state of florida. The great state of indiana. The great state of new hampshire. New york, the empire state. It is my honor to be able to throw donald trump over the top in the delegate count tonight. Congratulations, dad, we love you the chair announces that donald j. Trump has been selected as the Republican Party nominee for president of the United States. Im going to present the case now against Hillary Rodham clinton. In libya and nigeria, guilty. In china and syria guilty for risking americas secrets to keep her own and lying to cover it all up. Guilty lock her up lock her up lucifer. Think about that. Our party has a nominee. [ audience booing ] that was pretty well orchestrated. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to cleveland the next president of the United States, mr. Donald j. Trump. We need a president who is politically incorrect and will tell it like it is. Why . Because america deserves better. The time for fighting is over. Vote for conscience. Vote for candidates who you trust to be faithful to the constitution. God bless each and every one of you and god bless the United States of america. If you want to protect the constitution of the United States, the only possible candidate this fall is the trum trump pence republican ticket. You have nominated a man for president who never quits, who never backs down. A fighter, a winner. Mr. Trump is americas blue collar billionaire. Donald trump will build a wall. He will focus on making Quality Childcare affordable and accessible for all. He will fight for equal pay for equal work. My father and our next president , donald j. Trump. I humbly and gratefully accept your nomination. Americans watching this address tonight have seen the recent images of violence in our streets. Not only have our citizens endured domestic disaster, but theyve lived through one interment humiliation after another. This is the legacy of Hillary Clinton. Death, destruction, terrorism, and weakness. I alone can fix it. We will make America Great again. God bless you and good night. The 2016 republican National Convention does adjourn. And joining me now for their takes, republican strategist joe watkins, the posts jonathan capehart, and mother joness david corn. David corn, give us your review of the republican National Convention and do you think it will produce a bounce for donald trump . To me it was a parade of fear and loathing. Ive never seen a modern convention where the most popular chant called for imprisoning, imprisoning your opponent. Again and again and again we saw displays of hatred, more than any support for donald trump. It was focused like a laser beam on Hillary Clinton and demonizing her, literally deamon demonizing her when ben carson talked about her connection to lucifer. To me, one of the most bizarre moments of the convention, its a little down in the weeds, but a guy named alex jones, the number one conspiracy here thee orrist in the country, a 9 11 truther. He believes the last republican president , george bush, was in on 9 11, killed 3,000 americans so he could invade iraq. He was given a special guest credential to this election because he supports donald trump and trump likes him. And george bush wasnt there. So this was a lot of bizarros and haters who gathered together to support tonight, who has been called a conman and a racist by leaders of his own party. I cant think of anything morey convention. Thats kind of how i feel. I think you need to stop being so shy and retiring. Reverend joe watkins, because you are a pastor. I am. Invoking lucifer to shade your opponent is a bit low. None of us are perfect, were all sinners, we all fall short of gods glory. Nobody should be calling somebody a child of lucifer. The convention i think was successful, i mean, in that it accomplished for donald trump what he needed to accomplish. There was a lot of disunity going into the convention. Ive been to a lot of these conventions over the last 20 years and seen a lot of stuff. There was a lot less unanimity than weve seen in past conventions. Donald trump ended up getting the best of all of it, at the end of it he gave a speech that gave the reasons why hes running for the presidency, and he shared a vision of america that not everybody may agree with but that i think is meant to energize people to come out and support him in the polls. The other person i think that made a huge dent was ted cruz. And some people say maybe he killed his career, others say maybe not. I dont think he killed his career. There have been people who have been booed in the past and four years later they were the partys nominee. Bill clinton was booed in the 1998 nomination and years later was the nominee. I give ted cruz credit for saying his say and saying what the Republican Party is supposed to be about, the party of lincoln, the party that freed the slaves, the party that stood up for black people and made sure the civil rights legislation was passed, Voting Rights, housing. These were all people that mattered to people of color and mattered to all americans, i think. Ted cruz said that. I told heard him say that before, but he said it. I dont think he ever said it before. The thing about ted cruzs speech, theres a reason why that sort of civil rights history of the Republican Party stops, and he stopped at 64, because after that theres nothing there to talk about or claim since then. Thats why i joined the Republican Party, because of the civil rights work. Im older. Thats what made me join the Republican Party. Thats the thing, people forget that by and large, africanamericans were Republican Voters because of the party of lincoln, because of what president lincoln did, and they switched when president johnson and president kennedy, you go into black homes in the south, kennedy came in christ, thats on the walls. My view of the Republican Party that we all witnessed is this. If democrats are not enthusiastic about Hillary Clinton and the Hillary Kaine ticket, then they just need to go back and look at that montage that you just showed. Thats the america that is going to come if donald trump is elected president. Its dark, its aggressive, its not accepting or tolerant of the other, how its defined by trump and his supporters. And so if thats not if that is not enough to motivate you to get to the polls, to save america. Our editorial page, the Washington Post editorial page, were not playing around, that editorial is not the first time weve written this. We decided early on that this was one of the moments in American History where we want to be on the record early and often to remind people. Everyone likes to say this election is the most important of our lifetime. No, this one really is, because what we saw last week and what were going to see this week are two completely different views of america. Ill give you last word, david corn, go ahead. I think theres one point that has not gotten enough attention for all the talking weve done this week. There was a real strong theme throughout the Republican Convention that if Hillary Clinton should win, its only because theres a corrupt system, she should be in jail was the message, and its a rigged system, and outside the Convention Hall and talking to delegates and even from the stage, you got the message that if she wins it will be because of voter fraud and corruption. So theyre setting up a foundation for saying shes illegitimate as a president. This is birtherism run amok but wider and deeper. We are here in philadelphia were the democrats will get a chance to respond. How in your view, david corn, should the democrats respond to what they saw . What should be different this week . Well, i think they can say, we are the party of hope and moving forward and working together, not the party of anger and hatred, and that we respect our opponents and that we want to have real policy debates and not just engage in name calling. I think just sticking to that and creating a comparison in temperament and approach and attitude will really resonate with maybe those 27 voters who are still undecided. And jonathan, same question. I think democrats need to make it clear, the republicans just built a wall around themselves, keeping the country out, the rest of us out. Were a party that is saying, come in, because you are a part of the american story. We all are a part of the american story. And there are challenges that we have always faced as a country, but were only going to solve them and move forward together, not by pushing people away and making broad threats. Because you are our philadelphia homeboy here, what would surprise you most to hear out of the Democratic Convention . I dont know that i would be surprised by anything, because ive heard so much over the course of had i time. I wouldnt be surprised by anything. What would pleasantly surprise you . It would be great just to see a great convention. Its easy to demonize one side or the other. You people arent usually as bad or as good as they say you are. It would be great to get a glimpse of who the nominee is. We have snapshots of her time as secretary of state and u. S. Senator. But it would be great to see her as a candidate, to see who she is and learn more about her. Thank you for welcoming to your city. Our guests will be back later in the hour, because theyre great. Up next, Hillary Clinton is getting ready for her first valley with her veep pick, tim kaine. Well have a preview of that thrilling prospect after the break. Using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the fruit. Veggies. And herbs needed to create a popup pickyourown juice bar in the middle of the city, so now everyone knows. We have some of the freshest juice in town. See what the power of points can do for your business. Learn more at chase. Com ink see what the power of points can do for your business. 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But a new job came calling anyway. Hillary clinton tweeted last night with muchawaited details on the newlyformed ticket. She will formally introduce senator kaine at her running mate in a few minutes at a rally in miami. Nbcs Kristen Welker joins us from miami with the latest. Kristen, whats the mood like inside the campaign and what do we expect to hear from the candidates today . Reporter theyre feeling optimistic, theyre very confident about this pick of tim kaine. Theyre hoping this first joint appearance with secretary clinton and senator kaine will give them a Winning Ticket headed into next weeks convention. She will try to paint her vision for how to move the country forward. We got a little bit of a glimpse last night when she held an event in tampa and criticized donald trump for painting a very dark picture of the country. She said, yes, some things need to be changed and improved, but she made it very clear shes going to paint a much rosier picture of where things stand in the u. S. I also think this event will be a chance to introduce democrats to tim kaine. Hes 58yearold father of three who Campaign Officials say really checks all the boxes. What does that mean . Hes a senator, hes a former governor of virginia. He also has Foreign Policy experience. Hes a former dnc chair. They feel as though shes someone who can help to bring in a critical swing state, virginia, but also help to rally some of the voters who she has a deficit with, like men, like working class voters, and like independent voters who are going to be so critical to winning this election, joy. He also speaks spanish, thats part of why they are having this first event here in florida. I anticipate were going to hear him speak some spanish today. Thats going to be critical for energizing latino voters, also a critical voting bloc. I think youll see a very energized crowd here, joy. Its really the kickoff to next weeks dnc. Joy . And kristen, im wondering if the campaign was surprised by the intensity of the blowback, quite frankly, from progressives on the kaine pick. Surely they had been hearing for months that progressives would not be excited about a kaine pick, thats something that shouldnt have been unknown to them. Do you think they were surprised by how intense its been . Reporter i asked that very question, joy, a little bit earlier today. A Campaign Official said they werent surprised, they were prepared for this. And what you are going to see over the next several days is a very firm pushback on progressives who say hes not progressive enough. Theyre going to point to key moments in his record, and they will argue that he is a progressive. Theyre going to point to his record as a governor, when he fought for stiffer gun laws. Theyre going to point to his very high rating with a number of progressive organizations like the Brady Campaign and other groups. So i think thats going to be part of the pushback. Then one of the key issues here has been trade, joy. As you know, joy, youve talked a lot about this, the fact that he voted to approve Fast Track Authority for tpp, that big trade deal that progressives just hate. I was told that he is going to come out against the actual trade deal. Hes going to say that that Fast Track Authority was a procedural vote and now that hes had the chance to actually review the details, he is opposed to tpp. So that could be significant. But theres no doubt they have a lot of work to do in that regard, because progressives, a key part of secretary clintons base, she has an endorsement from senator Elizabeth Warren and of course Bernie Sanders who are going to help energize that part of the party. But its going to be critical that senator tim kaine helps to win them over as well, joy. Yeah, absolutely. At the end of the day, progressive voters, young voters, and voters of color, are so key to the Democratic Party. Lets see how they make that sale. Nbcs Kristen Welker in miami, thank you. Frederica wilson, we saw her up on the dais, doing their thing. Up next, what a Trump Presidency would look like from somebody who would know, believe me. Stay with us. If you have a typical Airline Credit card, you only earn double miles when you buy stuff from that airline. Wait. Is this where you typically shop . You should be getting double miles on every purchase switch. To the capital one venture card. With venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, everywhere, every day. Not just. dismissively airline purchases. Seriously. Double miles. Everywhere. Whats in your wallet . You stay up. You listen. You laugh. You worry. You do whatever it takes to take care of your family. 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This week he wrote, i had landed on a long and esteemed list of haters and losers, spanning decades, from wharton to wall street to the oval office, who have reconcilidicul sneered at him, and now propelled him to the republican nomination. Joining me now from washington, d. C. Is the new yorker staff writer who interviewed Tony Schwartz, jane mayer. Thanks for being here. Tony schwartz is now being sued by donald trump over his revelations to you. What was your key takeaway about what he things is driving donald trump to want to be president . Honestly, he painted the most alarming inside picture of donald trump. You know, i came away thinking that he felt he describes even in a diary he kept at the time that he was writing the art of the deal, which was back in 1986, that trump was what he called a human black hole, with just an insatiable need for attention, money, and just kind of a claim. He could never, ever get enough, according to Tony Schwartz, as he worked with him, truly hes one of the only people whos worked with trump who has been able to tell the inside story, because he worked with him before trump started signing people up in nondisclosure agreements. And so hes one of the only people who is able to describe it without actually violating a contract. And jane, you know, i was on that realtime episode with tony, he described donald trump as a sociopath. Weve had editorials, the Washington Post called him dangerous, its been called vladimir putinesque. How would you characterize what donald trump is, at least in Tony Schwartzs view . I asked Tony Schwartz, if you were writing the book today, what would you call it . He said, i would call it is in the soc se soci sciopath. What he meant was someone who could never get enough. The reason he agreed to speak to me finally was, he felt, as he put it, terrified that this man would be president because, among other things, he has an incredibly short attention span. I mean, schwartz, in order to write the book, had to get enough material from trump to write some 300 pages. And what he and trump wanted him to do this, this was a cooperative agreement, they were splitting the fees for the book and wanted it to be a success. Schwartz could not get trump to concentrate more than a few minutes at a time. And so he worries that if there were, for instance, some kind of complicated National Security situation and emergency, that trump would not be able to sit still and take in the information. He says he doesnt believe that trump has ever read a book in his adult life. Trump, when he was interviewed on the subject, actually admitted that he doesnt actually read books. He says he doesnt have time. Other president s, most recently george w. Bush and president obama, read plenty of books. Trumps got this really short attention span, according to schwartz, which he sees as a huge liability for someone who might be president , because you cant absorb information thats complicated, it gives him a superficial understanding of things and makes it hard for him to focus on whats at hand. Even the speech he gave on thursday, our understanding is he didnt rehearse it or do a run through. You could see how slowly he was reading it through, as if it was the first time he was reading the words. Chris hayes interviewed Mckay Hopkins who spent some time following trump around. Lets take a listen to what mckay had to say. I was one taunting insider who got under trumps skin. This has been his entire life. He was always an outsider, even when he was a kid, born to a rich family but born in queens, longing to be accepted by the wealthy elite in manhattan but never quite made it. Jane, did you get a sense from tony why donald trump wanted and needed to have the art of the deal written . What was the goal of having that book published . This was his way of bursting on the scene and creating a myth about himself. The problem for Tony Schwartz was he was supposed to be writing a Nonfiction Book that was accurate. Again and again he describes the problem with interviewing trump was that he describes him as a chronic, almost pathological liar, who when schwartz tried to check the facts, they wouldnt square with what other peoples accounts were. And so he was aggrandizing himself in a way that was out of touch with reality, according to schwartz, which is, again, a disturbing trait, you know, because you dont want a president constantly lying to the American Public about what reality is. So these were all qualities that made schwartz finally come forward and agree to an interview. Its his first interview in almost 30 years on this subject. And, you know, he didnt its not i think something thats important for people to understand is hes not disagreeing, its not about trumps ideology, though schwartz does have different views than trump. What made him come forward was his absolute deep concern about trumps character. Its an important read, i think, for anybody who, if youre still undecided and you want to know a little bit more about him or even if youre not but want insights on donald trump from somebody who would know. Jane mayer, thank you so much for bringing us that interview and for being here today. Thank you for having me. Up next, celeb versus celeb. Quite a turn. Can the democrats top chachi and that dude from duck dynasty . And were standing by for the first joint appearance by Hillary Clinton and her running mate tim kaine in miami. Stay with us. I approve this message. Donald trump i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldnt lose any voters, okay . And you can tell them to go f themselves you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. You gotta see this guy. Ahh, i dont know what i said, ahh. I dont remember. Hes going like i dont remember it takes a lot of work. But i really love it. S. Im on the move all day long. And sometimes, i just dont eat the way i should. So i drink boost® to get the nutrition that im missing. Boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. All with a great taste. I dont plan on slowing down any time soon. Stay strong. Stay active with boost®. If youre an average american who feels like youve been forgotten, neglected by far away leaders, that the deck is stagg stacked against you and you just cant win, donald trump will have your back. Barack obama and Hillary Clinton promote division. Dont be fooled. Donald trump is for unity. America is an easy place to get to. But for you first time voters, its important for you to know what it means to be an american. It doesnt mean getting free stuff. If you, like the Washington Post, keep a celebrity lineup at the republican National Convention, you might find more familiar faces at the Democratic National convention, where the wattage promises to shine a bit brighter. Included among the selection are lena dunham, kareem abdul jamar, demi lovato, and america ferrera. There was the duck dynasty dude, there was Antonio Sabato jr. I think he was on a soap. And then there was chachi, scott bio. Why did donald trump have such trouble pulling celebs . Donald trump is a celebrity. Even mike tyson was like, uh, no. Dennis rodman. He said no. They all said no. Why is that . Well, you know, right now the campaign has not as i said earlier, done the job to reach out to africanamericans. Even tim tebow said no. Tim tebow isnt africanamerican. I mean, in terms of celebrities, it wasnt just black celebrities. Everybody said no. Antonio sabato jr. , scott baio, what is this . It was like a really sad river cruise entertainment show. Like, hey, Antonio Sabato jr. , scott baio, get the shuffleboard. We laugh and we joke, but there is, joe, there has been for quite a while a Cultural Divide between republicans and democrats, which actually feeds the sort of paranoia and anger among some of the right who fear that the culture dismisses and d disses them. Most of the popular musicians dont even want their songs played at the republican National Convention, cease and desist orders were going out even as the convention was going on, it was like, dont play my songs. When you have people who are isolated culturally, is that part of what feeds the divide, because people on the right feel, hollywood despises us, the Music Industry despises us, were sort of isolated, other than country music. Maybe it does. I think it gives credence to my argument which is that the Republican Party, if this is going to be a credible, strong party going forward, its got to be a much bigger tent than it currently is. Its got to be a party that says to lots of people and everybody, certainly all americans, i love you, i want you to be a part of me. Jackie robinson and james brown, what happened . Right, we used to. You know what, though, there are singers and actors and hollywood types who are republicans. Right. Kelsey grammer. Who are conservative. But they even chose not to be in cleveland. So its not that entertainment and hollywood is liberal. Its that this guy is someone who is so antithetical to what they feel or believe a republican or a conservative should be, that they didnt even want to come out. So if scott baio sees this as his way to ride back into fame or Antonio Sabato jr. , who i had forgotten about, quite frankly, see it as a way to ride back into a bit of the limelight, that says more about them than it does about really, about the Republican Party, which is in deep, deep straits. Sorry. We want to bring it back to next weeks convention. Does celebrity, and the fact that yes, Hillary Clinton will have a lot more celebrities, a lot more stars, does that actually translate into votes . In the social media age that were in, it might not translate into votes. But it certainly translates into eyeballs. All youre trying to do the vote is the final sale. But in order for you to get someone to give you a looksee, you need someone to say, hey, i vouch for this person, this is someone you should Pay Attention to. I guarantee you, if Kim Kardashian or someone with a huge following, beyonce, were to say, you know what, that Hillary Clinton is great, or that donald trump said something interesting, eyeballs immediately. And it makes people say, maybe i should give that person a looksee, give them a second chance, or reject them completely. On the other hand, speaking of celebrity, i have to get this in with you, joe, one of the knocks on barack obama from republicans in 2008 was they downed him as a celebrity. They said he was narcissistic, they said he was all about image. Now theyve nominated a reality tv star with no experience they also said he had no experience. They have now nominated someone who has never been elected to anything and is all the things they claimed barack obama was. Why is there no sense of irony among those folks . Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, people love to look at the other party and say things that arent terribly nice about the other party and the other partys candidates. At the end of the day, barack obama was a great candidate and certainly made history as the first africanamerican elected as president of the United States, and will go down in history as somebody who made a difference for america. Hes one of the really strong president s that weve had. And whether you like him or dont like him, hes going to go down in history. Its not unusual for people to say mean things about the other party and the other partys nominee. But donald trump is sui generis. This is not a typical republican candidate. He certainly is not typical. This is also not a typical run can year, this has been a very different cycle. This is a cycle when the party elected as its nominee an outsider, somebody who had no political experience, somebody who has been successful in business, who has been on tv. Successfulish in business, theres a difference. Very quickly, jonathan, who would you say people are going to be most excited about in terms of the stars we expect to see next week at the dnc . Whos coming . Demi lovato . All the star wattage will be at the Democratic National convention. Its matter of how fast can your neck whip from one side to the other to get a look at the star you like. And the other side will be even angrier. Much more ahead as we await the appearance by Hillary Clinton and her running mate, virginia senator tim kaine. Well be right back. Using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the framework. Wire. And plants needed to give my shop. A face. No one will forget. See what the power of points can do for your business. Learn more at chase. 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Her selection of tim kaine is night and day, opposite to what happened at the Republican Convention. I dont think trump gets much of a bounce. She has a chance to try to get her own bounce. Right now shes looking pretty strong. Yeah. Ive got to say, the actual convention not outrating the 2008 convention with john mccain, is telling. Because you did have this record turnout in the primaries, i think 13 million votes for donald trump. But he wasnt able to match the enthusiasm in the end that mccain did. Im not sure theres any great ratings for the Dnc Convention either. So come the end of the week, donald trump boasting that maybe his ratings were higher than hers. Ultimately, i dont think these conventions matter as much as they used to. But still, she looks like a pro. She looks reasonable. And thats not the way he came out this week. Bill clintons unlikely to pick some lines out of some other persons speech. Unlikely. But it could happen. Joe, who won the week . I think that at least from the standpoint of effectiveness, this was an effective week for donald trump. I thought that the convention wasnt smooth. There was a lot of drama for the first time in many years. But i think he accomplished everything he needed to accomplish, as far as exciting his base and getting people who may not have supported him early on to say that, you know, ill give him a look. Did the convention add any supporters to him . I dont think so. The hard part, maybe new support, maybe some independents and some democrats. But from an ethics standpoint, i dont think it ethnically. We still have a problem with ethnic balance in our party. Not enough black people u and not enough brown people. That needs to change. As far as reaching some independents and democrats, i think donald trump did that this week. Would won the week . I think the trump kids won the week. This is their first time on a global stage. Everyone was watching what they had to say, how they would present themselves. I thought donald trump jr. , conservative to his core, you could sense it in the way he spoke. It came through the screen. One state senator from kansas said to me, he liked donald trump jr. Because conservativism came naturally to him. I thought eric trump did very well. I thiought ivanka trump did wel as well. Shes the star of the family, the star of the trump kids. But i thought donald trump jr. Did a better job. I think were going to be talking politically a lot about him, donald trump jr. , in the future. Like donald trump himself, you forgot tiffany. Im so sorry. I was in the hall for her speech. And she did well. Yes, she did. But i have to say, i am not in the dont forget, ivanka sold a few dresses. I dont know, im a bit not in the pulpit of the kids. They said they love their dad. Thats what theyre supposed to do. I think im with bill maher on that. But you know what, everybody had their opinions. I had a few different sort of nominees for who won the week. I thought jared hill, the unemployed journalist free lance young guy out of california who caught that plagiarism. Good for him. I hope that he gets a really Good Journalism job out of it. Because he snooped that out and caught that. So i thought he won the week. In a sense, though, i thought ted cruz won the week. I know this is going to see a bit ironic. What ted cruz actually did, unlike many members of the Republican Party who said out of their mouths that donald trump is unfit to be president. But then who have lined up behind him anyway. I think theres something to the fact that if you believe that this person is unfilth to be president , that you dont line up, even after they called your dad a murderer, and basically impugned your wifes looks and insulted her. I dont agree in anything ted cruz believes in, but i think he stood on principle. The big loser of north carolina, you aint all getting the nba allstar game. 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Hey there, everyone. Im alex witt here live in philadelphia at the Independence Mall visitor center. Just two days before the Democratic National Convention Kicks off just a short distance from here. But the big story this hour in miami, were Just Moments Away from the first joint appearance of Hillary Rodham clinton and her Vice President ial pick, virginia senator tim kaine. Bringing you a live picture from Florida International university, where the new running mates are going to be taking the stage very soon. We at nbc have Kristen Welker in miami, and andrea mitchell. And by my side here in philadelphia, joy reed, host of am joy. And former naacp head,
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