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On his bid to win. And his impassioned plea to congress. To me this is an abomination about. All in starts right now. Good evening, from new york. Im chris hayes. After a barrage of security lapses both recent and recently revealed and after a hearing that was full of outrage the director of the United States secret service has resigned. The department of Homeland Security with the complete backing of the president has entered in a wide ranging critical assessment of how the secret service protects the president and his family. Julie pierson tendered her resignation to jay johnson and to president obama. After an 18month tenure that was born itself in the wake of a secret sex scandal she was brought in to clean up. Her tenure began after one of the major incidents now under close scrutiny, the 2011 of the white house exterior, but she was at the helm of two key security related incidents including the white house fence jumper, and while the White House Press secretary relayed president obamas gratitude for piersons years of service, the president believes her resignation is necessary. Over the last several days weve seen recent and accumulating reports raising questions about the agency and the president concluded that new leadership was required. Today Joseph Clancy was named as the interim acting director. He was formerly a special agent in charge of the president ial protective division of the secret service. Hes most recently served as the corporate director for comcast which is msnbcs parent corporation. The deputy security along with general counsel placed in charge of the inquiry going into the fence jumping incident. It didnt stop there. Homeland security secretary johnson also announced that a panel of independent experts will assess the fence jumping incident and related issues and submit recommendations. Those related issues have begun to mount hours after the testimony yesterday. The Washington Post posted a story about a security contractor with a gun and three convictions for assault and battery having been allowed on an elevator with the president during a september 16th trip to atlanta violating secret service protocols. Probably didnt help matters that president obama was unaware of that incident until yesterday. Did director pierson brief the president on that incident . Jim, i can tell you that the white house first learned of that incident yesterday afternoon shortly before it was reported by before it was publicly reported by a news organization. Shortly before publicly reported. Indeed what the issue was a recurring line of questioning at yesterdays hearing. I asked you what percentage of the time do you inform the president if his personal security is in any way, shape or form been breached . Percent of the time, 100 of the time we would advise the president. You would advise the president . Yes. In calendar year 2014 how many times has that happened . Ive not briefed him with the exception of one occasion for the september 19th incident. Joining me now is steven lynch, a member of that House Committee on oversight and government reform that held the hearing yesterday. Congressman, the straw that broke the camels back is that last report yesterday about the private contractor with a gun in the elevator with the president and the fact the president or his staff didnt know about it until shortly before the article published . Right. And also the fact that director pierson did not disclose that at the hearing when she was asked nor did she disclose it at the classified hearing. It all fell apart. You werent told about this incident was not discussed even in the executive, the private classified session you went into yesterday after the public session, this incident was not discussed then either . Right. And the director gave a misleading answer, as youve shown already, to representative chaffetz questions and representative gowdys questions about prior breaches of security involving the president. So you would think that, you know, once she got into a private setting, classified briefing, she would have had the opportunity to clarify her statement, and she chose not to. So the fact that we had multiple breaches and then multiple efforts by her to to mislead us or failure to disclose, that all just indicated that it was not going to go well for her at the end. It was a good decision for her to resign. We can move on. This issue in the washington examiners was about that incident when the president was visiting the centers for Disease Control after it was discovered that this contractor had a loaded weapon in the elevator with the president , had is a no no. Secret Service Managers told agents in atlanta not the file a written report after discovering that a convict with a gun rode in an elevator with president obama during his visit to the cdc. There are two issues it seems to me here are they doing a good job protecting the president and are they being truthful . There seems to be a lot of dissembling, covering up, that has to worry anyone including the people tasked with oversight. Right. We need to really shake things up. Youre absolutely right. Remember, the director actually at first issued a release that said the fence jumper was not armed. Upon further review he had a knife with a 3 1 2inch blade. The director issued a statement to the press and to congress that they had stopped the intruder at the north portico when in fact the intruder ran through several of the rooms and, you know, and had a deep breach of the white house mansion. There are just countless instances where the information that we got from secret service was false. And what do you what is your understanding of the institutional problem were confronted with here . Because, of course, pierson herself was brought in in the wake of this incredibly embarrassing scandal, a scandal i would add that came to light after agents tried to cover up the fact that someone had discharged a service revolver, the fact that we have agents who appear to be up to no good and also trying to cover it up. That all preceded pierson as did the 2011 incident with the seven bullets lodged in the white house. Seems to me theres a deeper issue than just pierson. With most of our intelligence and Security Operations there is sort of a mindset of opacity, lack of transparency. Its very difficult as a member of the Oversight Committee to get answers. Often we have to resort to subpoenas. But there is a culture there that is even beyond the pale here where not only is there incompetence in providing that protection, as you mention, but theres also a blatant disregard for the truth and for informing, you know, sharing information that could be very, very important in, you know, addressing the larger security issue. Congressman stephen lynch, thank you. Joining me now is partner at command consulting, former special assistant to the president for operations. You worked in the Bush Administration as a staff liaison with the secret service. After these revelations it seemed that pierson had to go. Are you surprised by the avalanche of revelations weve seen coming out of the Washington Post these last few days . No, i mean, i think ever since the cartagena incident a couple years ago theres been blood in the water and weve been on a downward spiral from a Public Affairs and Public Perception since then. The secret service, to its credit, and i think very important to the mission that theyre trying to accomplish is used to operating in an environment where details about incidents are kept confidential. And, unfortunately, this has created an environment where any time anything goes wrong, no matter how large or small, people are rushing out to get it on camera, to talk to reporters and tell folks about why it represents a security breach. I understand this correctly. You thing the problem here that this stuff is coming to light . I think that creates a challenge. Part of the issues over the past several weeks have been, frankly, that the secret service has placed a value traditionally on individuals and on organizational capabilities thats focused on being able to do their job and protect the president , protect the white house and other facilities and people. Its not one that has really focused their attention on Building People who are good at going up in front of the house Oversight Committee and giving good testimony. And so they generally like to keep their heads down, do the best job that they can, theyre not really oriented towards how will we explain this to congress, how are we going to explain this in the press . Steve, there was a guy running around the first floor of the white house stepping away from the steps up into the familys residence with a knife and 800 rounds of ammunition in his car after getting arrested with a hatchet a month earlier. This is substantively, right, this was a major screwup. This isnt just a case of an agency that is, you know, the 20th century in terms of its pr relations, right . Theres a real chain of substantive problems here. I havent heard anyone coming out and saying that that wasnt a huge messup. Okay . That there arent problems with that. That there were protocol that was not followed. Everyone, including the director yesterday, the former director now, that was first thing she said. I think the problem that were having right now in explaining this to the general public and that members of congress have had in understanding this is equating those messups to the president s life actually being in jeopardy or the president s familys life actually being in jeopardy. Thats the error. Look at the november 11, 11 incident, what was the screwup that were really all jumping over that . Well, the fact that after the incident happened, no one went up and swept the truman balcony to discover that the bullets had actually hit that and what they hit, but nobodys talking about the fact that it was actually a huge Success Story that the secret Service Years before that had anticipated the possibility that someone from a quarter mile or a half mile away on constitution avenue could fire a rifle at the white house. And what did they do as a result of that . They put in place extensive protective measures to make sure that couldnt actually pose a threat to first family as they were in the building. It was successful in preventing that from happening. That may be true, but dont you think its the case that people should know if the white house is hit by bullets . Of course, of course. And look, the secret service is an organization that has always spent a great deal of time and placed a lot of value on post event analysis, red teaming what they do and how they do it and what can we learn from this incident to do something a little bit better. So what did they do as a result of that . They changed their protocols for when theres an event at the white house, theyre going to do a sweep of the property, theyre going to investigate what the actual damage was in a more thorough way, in a more immediate way. But the problem again is that were taking that and conflating that to be that the president s life was in danger and that the secret service is incompetent. I think thats an irresponsible leap to take. Well, i dont know if they dont think the president was home, so his life wasnt in danger. Nor was he home when the fence jumper came over the fence. The daughter was home, which is probably not when the fence jumper came over. No, but when the gunshots were fired at the residence when the bullets lodged in the protective glass, which, yes, thank god were installed from foresight from an earlier secret service agent. Secrecy with intention and performance, now were seeing some oversight coming in for first time and hopefully this means the institution gets reformed. Thank you very much. You bet. More about the man being treated in a texas hospital tonight for ebola. His name and how he might have gotten the virus. And hes not happy with a certain u. S. Senate candidate. So when we asked the guys at Composites Horizons to map their manufacturing process with sticky notes and string, yeah, they were a little bit skeptical. What they do actually is rocket science. High tech components for aircraft and fighter jets. Were just their bankers, right . But financing from ge capital also comes with expertise from across ge. In this case, our top lean process engineers. 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Hes listed in serious but stable condition at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital where hes been under isolation since sunday. Cdc director said there was, quote, zero risk of transmission to the other passengers on duncans route to the u. S. , brussels to washington, d. C. To dallas because he wasnt just symptomatic and thus not contagious. They are keeping tabs on at least 12 to 18 people they believe he came into contact with after starting to experience symptoms including five children. Today we learned that some schoolaged children have been identified as having had contact with the patient and are now being monitored at home for any signs of the disease. I know the parents are being extremely concerned about that development, but let me assure these children have been identified and they are being monitored and the disease cannot be transmitted before having any symptoms. Duncan was admitted to the hospital on sunday, but officials in dallas revealed today they had missed an earlier opportunity to isolate him and limit the risk to other people. The patient had initially sought medical care two days earlier on friday only to be sent home with some antibiotics. This despite the fact he told a nurse he had just come from liberia. Somehow that key piece of information wasnt taken into account. Regretfully, that information was not fully communicated throughout the full team. And as a result, the full import of that information wasnt factored into the clinical decisionmaking. Meanwhile, a new report in the New York Times sheds light on the conditions under which Thomas Eric Duncan departed for the u. S. Two weeks ago. According to the times just four days before he left liberia duncan had direct contact with a woman who was sick with ebola, his landlords daughter. The family of the woman, marthatlene williams, took her by taxi to the hospital with mr. Duncans help. She was convulsing and seven months pregnant. They were turned away from a hospital who had no more space. Mr. Duncan then helped carry ms. Williams who was no longer able to walk back to the family home that evening. She died that night and her brother fell ill and died about a week later. Joining me is dr. Rajiv shah who is head of the usaid. You just had your staff in liberia, that gives a window into how bleak things are in liberia right now where youve got a guy who a familys trying to get their loved one they cant get an ambulance, they get to the hospital, theyre turned away. That little snapshot makes you think no wonder the disease is out of control. Well, thank you, chris, and it is true that there have been more than 7,000 cases in west africa, more than 3,000 deaths. This is a Public Health emergency that is an epidemic in three subsaharan african countries. And thats why president obama noted this is a National Security threat to the entire world and has put the United States in a position where were able to put significant resources into a strong coordinated strategy to turn the tide in west africa. Lets talk about what that looks like, okay . Were now seeing what this looks like on the ground here in dallas, right . You have to contain the individual, you have to treat the individual, you have to treat that individual in such a fashion that Health Care Workers themselves dont get sick which require special equipment, special facilities. You then have to identify the people who might have come in contact with him. You then have to monitor those people. You then have to possibly treat and contain them should they manifest symptoms. Were talking about one single case in the richest country of the world. I can imagine million of dollars literally will be spent on this one case. You think about trying to do that in liberia and i cant even imagine where you start. Well, thats right. And thats why we have started by working with our International Partners to craft a clear strategy. Were in the process of building out 2800 beds so theres significant ebola treatment unit treatment and isolation capacity. Weve seen new units come online just in the last few day, the largest unit to date, 150 beds in the clinic in monrovia. But its important to get into literally every community, help people understand that the way you handle dead bodies, the way you manage your contacts and the way you identify patients with fevers who need to go get diagnosed to know whether or not they have ebola, that requires community education. In the last months and weeks we have dramatically scaled up the effort to make sure that every Community People get Text Messages on their mobile phone, they have songs and Community Mobilization efforts to ensure that people understand the risks and are actually able to protect themselves from the risk of infection. Well, this strikes at the heart of what i think a lot of people are reacting to when they read the story of mr. Duncan. At one level, the description of what he did for his landlords daughter is remarkable, a remarkable act of courage and grace to just ride in the taxi with this woman, to hold her up as shes dying and cant walk. What he did in that context is incredible and selfless. At the same time, i think people are having a hard time imagining going to hospital having watched someone die of ebola and not saying to people, i just watched someone die from ebola a few days ago. Can you explain maybe the sort of background context for why that might not have been something he said in that environment . Well, i can plain the context in the sense that there are so many cases, you know, a few thousand active cases on the ground and it outstrips the capacity for people to be in current existing treatment and isolation settings. And thats why weve worked to get hundreds of thousands of protective equipment kits into countries so people have that protective equipment. Thats why one of the most effective things were doing right now is actually in addition to treatment just having what we call safe burial teams and weve funded and built out more than 45 safe burial teams. They go to communities and they identify patients who have died from ebola and they isolate them, putting them in a safe body bag, talking to the family, making sure people arent washing the body or kissing the body, which is sometimes local custom and which is highly transmissive. Right now were in the midst of building an all hands on deck coordinated effort to break the transmission of this disease. It will, as you point out, require everyone participating, everyone telling people when theyve been exposed and why they might have been exposed, much more access to diagnosis and treatment and importantly that Community Mobilization that reaches really every household so people know what to tell others when theyve been put at risk. Yeah, you see in this case how important information, awareness about whats happening is in terms of preventing transmission. Dr. Rajiv shah, thank you so much. Thank you. Theres been a verdict in the case of a white man who killed an unarmed black teenager in the parking lot of the gas station after accusing the 17yearold of playing his music too loud. Your customers, our financing. Your aspirations, our analytics. Your goals, our technology. Introducing synchrony financial, bringing new meaning to the word partnership. Banking. 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As mark pryor struggles to hold on to the seat his father once held one of the more fruitful lines of attack against his opponent cotton has been that cotton was the only member of the entire arkansas delegation to vote against the farm bill. This is in the home state of tyson foods, a state where agri business is a commodity. Seeking to explain that vote. When president obama hijacked the farm bill, turned it into a food stamp bill with billions more in spending, i voted no. Career politicians love attaching bad ideas to good ones, then the bad ideas become law and you pay for it. Right, beyond the fact ha the farm bill has also been a food stamps bill for literally longer than tom cotton has been alive, congressman give us a lot to digest. The cotton ad provoked a searing response from none other than top chefs Tom Colicchio calling it a classic example of whats wrong with the political discourse around food in this country, misconstruing the facts and todays voters deserve better. Well never be able to improve food policies in the country if our leaders des tort and distract instead of discuss and debate. Joining me is Tom Colicchio. Thanks for having me. You sent me this ad, you send me a dm on twitter saying check this out. What got you so frustrated with this . Its factually incorrect. Since 1933 food stamps were a part of the farm bill. The idea that the president hijacked this the president s been called a lot of things. But now hes a time traveler apparently. So many reasons this bothered me. Number one when tom cotton was able to vote against farm subsidies, government handout to farmers, he voted for those subsidies. Right. And thats time every year since 1995 with the exception of one year his family has received farm subsidies. Wait a second, wait a second, the cotton family farm that is the gorgeous, lush and pastoral background to the downhome message in that ad, thats a farm thats getting checks from the government . Thats exactly right, yes. In all that time when you have poverty in arkansas, 20 of the population is on food stamps, 200,000 children rely on stamps for food in their households. And he voted to cut 31 billion out of the snap program. So lets be clear about what happened here. The house did this unprecedented thing and tom cotton serves in the house, thats why he was voting on it. Weve got this kind of interesting piece of legislation that unites urban and Rural America by sort of the food stamps are in with the rural subsidies. The house split it up. They tried. They tried, right . And they had two bills. One was just the subsidy side, the stuff that the cotton farm is getting. That he approved. And he voted for that. He voted for that. Keep giving the cotton family farm federal money for their farm. Yes. Then he also votes for the house version of the food stamps bill which cuts what 31 billion. 31 billion. Then votes against the final thing that many kos from the senate because of the food stamps. And if the president hijacked that bill they still cut 8. 9 billion out of that bill. If the president hijacked that he didnt do a good job of hijacking that. You pointed out all these Fact Checkers said this is factually incorrect, yet he doubled down and took out the same ad again. And he not only took out an ad, he dismissed the liberal Fact Checkers. They havent been to the cotton family farm which has been getting federal money. Apparently they havent been there to see that. This also strikes me as some ways a sign of defensiveness, this attack against voting against the farm bill and why the farm bill can often be a hideous monstrosity in certain ways is how unviable it is in these communities. He knows that. The other thing that sort of is somewhat disingenuous here is that arkansas didnt receive any of those cuts. Those snap cuts only affected, i think, 15 different states. Here in new york and the northeast. And the pacific northwest. Right. Because it was part of the right. Program, so arkansas wasnt affected by it. This is disingenuous on so many different levels. Something you scratch your head. And hes going to say the Fact Checkers are liberal. Exactly. Theres a congressman, republican congressman in tennessee whose family, steven fincher. Steven fincher, yeah. His family has 3. 2 million. Who has also done the same thing. The ideological contortions and hypocrisy bound up in this particular issue which the government is sending checks to farmers while trying to cut people that are hungry jt on top of that, look at the economical gains. Every dollar that goes into the snap program gets spent and it stays mostly instate. Its a boon to local farmers. He should be trying to find ways to help people use food stamps in farmers markets to really help the people of arkansas. And help people purchase food for their families. Tom colicchio. Why is Montel Williams testifying before congress . Ill ask him ahead. 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State offices in North Carolina are being inundated with phone calls from confused residents after hundreds of thousands of people received a mailer littered with bad voting information. A Public Information officer told us by phone that by conservative estimates 2,000 North Carolina residents have call the state board over the last two weeks confused about Voter Registration mailers they received in the mail. Turns out the mailers confusing thousands of north care linians were sent by americans for prosperity foundation, part of americans for prosperity which is largely funded by the koch brothers. Theyre a small part of the millions afp has spent to defeat democratic senator kay hagan. They were riddled with errors that included the wrong deadline for Voter Registration, Incorrect Information about where to send registration to and inaccurate information about who to call if you have questions. In a letter to the state board of elections, afp said in part our mistake was in taking our arkansas form and applying it to North Carolina without revetting every detail. They said we apologize to those who received our mailings in error. Our intention is not to inconvenience or cause distress but to encourage more people to participate in the electoral process. They also said, they are stunned and disappointed by the response of some partisans to attempt to silence afpfs Voter Registration effort. But in addition to being full with wrong information, the flyers were sent to wrong people including children who had passed away or in one case a cat. And the voters have been selfreporting how bad the list really is. We did have a call from one individual saying that their cat received a mailer. North carolina state board of elections is currently investigating. This comes a year after conservatives in North Carolina passed what is the most restrictive voting law. Two key parts were struck down by a federal Appeals Court. The court ruled that North Carolina must reinstate same day voting registration and must allow ballots cast from voters in the wrong precinct to be counted. Small victory for advocates. Joining me is reverend william barber. Good to see you again. Always good toy about with you, chris. So lets talk about the federal ruling today. How significant is this . What is it . It reinstates two key provisions. What remains in place . The voter i. D. Wasnt an issue. Well litigate that in court. Sameday registration has to be brought back and out of precinct voting. So the two parts of that bill were designed to suppress the right of africanamericans. Voting out of precinct. Precincts are tiny. If you think that your Elementary School three block away is the place and the new location is a block away and you go to the old one, the idea was that that would be thrown out. They would count them up and throw them away. The reality is because of the apartheid type redistricting it increased the change in precincts. So precincts have actually moved around. Moved around. We have districts that this legislature drew with if line right through a house where the person in the front of the house went to one precinct and the other person went to the other. Is that true really . Yes, that is true. Thats part of our Redistricting Court case that theyve still not let out of the Supreme Court. But heres the point, this was designed for voter suppression, clearly shows that these laws were targeted at africanamericans. The middle court got it wrong, as long as people have a place to vote. The Circuit Court said no, this is intentional, it will have a disproportionate effect on africanamericans and section two, not only can you not deny the right to vote, you cannot abridge the right to vote. This is a big deal, a federal Appeals Court striking down this state law which many called the kind of cutting edge of voting restriction. This is first case after shelby. So this is the first victory after shelby. This is big stuff. This is when the movement chooses to fight in the courts, in the street and in the suites. It is not just the court striking down the state but the federal bench, the circuit four striking down the middle district. In other words, saying that another federal judge got the law wrong. So they were reversing this had gone to the middle district. Exactly. Just so folks understand. Theres three levels in the court. District, circuit then supreme. The middle district judge said thats fine. He said it was a preference. And therefore, it did not create irreparable damage. But he also said in the same ruling that the laws that put these laws in place disproportionately affected africanamerican. But not illegal. The court says he got the law wrong. Youre getting rid of two of these, two are being struck down and being reinstated. The precinct thing is nuts. If you make a mistake, theres no reason not to count those votes. Why dont they want people to vote. Just like this tea party mailing. They lie about fraud, now they lie in the mailer about the proper way in which you can engage in vote. They say it was an innocent mistake. It could be innocent but they study everything else. They claim to know everything about our movement, who is partisan. Amazing how they can be so right on everything and so wrong on the main thing. Its disingenuous. What obstacles do you have left . 40some days until the election or is it even closer . What were doing now, we dont know what the Supreme Court will do. They may say no now to the circuit. Thats the possibility with the 54 up there. But this is a major victory. Well use that to continue to say to people you must turn out. 400,000 white women that voted in 2012. These are folks that are voting in the president ials 2008, 2012 didnt show up in the state. Right. Were saying you should understand you must be powerful if folk are fighting this hard to keep you from voting. So what you cant do is give it to them. You must turn out. We must fight in the courts, we must fight in the street, we must fight in the legislative hall but we must battle at the ballot box. Reverend william barber, thank you. Montel williams will be here next. What would happen. If energy could come from anything . Or if power could go anywhere . Or if light could seek out the dark . What would happen if that happens . Anything. Therlike a new meticulouslyones engineered german sedan. Finely crafted. Exactingly precise. Desire for such things often outpaces ones means. Until now. Hey matt, new jetta . Yeah. Introducing lots of new. The new volkswagen jetta. Isnt it time for german engineering . The sergeants time in this prison has been worse than his time in both combat situations. Hes going to come back to the United States and have to be treated for his combat ptsd but also his incarceration ptsd. To me this is an abomination. Six months. He didnt hesitate to say aye, aye, sir, to go off and serve. How dare we, how dare we as a nation hesitate to get that young man back . Talk show host and retired Lieutenant Commander of the u. S. Navy, Montel Williams testified for a House Committee on Foreign Affairs focusing on the case of 25yearold marine veteran andrew tamarisi. He was apprehended this year driving across the Mexican Border with three weapons and 400 rounds of ammunition. Hes now on trial and if convicted faces up to years behind bars. Tahmooressi says he missed an exit and crossed the border. His mother, a nurse says that he suffers from ptsd following two tours of duty in afghanistan. Two mexican psychiatrists who have individually examined tahmooressi have determined that he suffers from combatrelated ptsd. Hes tried to escape by climbing over a gate and tried to kill himself when he grabbed a light bulb and stabbed himself in the neck. This case has become a kind of cause celebre particularly during the Sergeant Bowe bergdahl controversy. He was lease re leased in june after working with the qatari government. Tahmooressi, both governments say hes being held under due process of mexican law. Great be here. First of all, this case is heartbreaking, its horrible to imagine what this guys going through. It seems to me im not a lawyer the best result would be released back to the u. S. , it didnt seem he did anything horrible, no one got hurt, he said he made a mistake. That said the u. S. Government will say we visited him 22 times. Hes being charged under the mexican judiciary system. We cant bust into a mexican prison and break him ow. Very funny that we can say this. I want to correct you on one thing. The u. S. Government has declared and diagnosed him with ptsd. They did so the week before he was arrested, they did so the day he was arrested. He was flown to san diego under military auspices even though hes not active duty, he served two tours in afghanistan. Hes being treated in his reserve status right now but that reserve status was where he was diagnosed at. Yeah. So we got to get that part clear. Now you say, i dont want to u. S. Government to go and bomb anybody. Thats not what the point is. The point is that we have an ill soldier who crossed the line. As did you the description of how this happened. It didnt happen that way. He was in mexico. He left mexico and came the a parking lot which is right outside the border, and there have been multiple people including congressmen who have gone down and followed the exact same path. This young man is diagnosed by our government, diagnosed by the Mexican Government for ptsd. He served with honor in afghanistan. Let me tell you about ptsd. He left, he said to his mother, he got freaked out a little bit while he was in mexico. He knew he had to get out of there. And why . Because, you know, people suffering from ptsd have a hypersense of awareness around them. They have a trigger point. If he was in mexico and got in his car, he probably didnt even see the signs. He tuned in and the evidence is correct and clear because they put it in the Court Last Week in mexico, they showed the tape of him pulling up to the turnstile. Say thats all true, right. Yes. That this was a horrible accident. Yes. That he shouldnt be there, right . Isnt it the case theres still a mexican judicial process. If we had a Mexican National who we had grabbed for something. Yes. And hes in an american prison, the Mexican Government doesnt get to come in and say, look, give him back. Were going to try him, go through the normal procedure. We hopefully achieve the right first end. Whats the first thing weve done to 60,000 illegal children who come in this country . We give them medical care, weve treated them no matter what their illness is. If we arrest someone and they have cancer, they go to a cancer ward. This is a person being held by one of our closest allies. Allies. And refuses to give him the commencerate medical treatment. Part of the issue is hes not receiving what he needs psychiatrically . The issue here is among peers and friends and neighbors and countries who have treaties. Yes. You do not treat a mentally ill person this way. Weve got to stop acting like this guy is just a soldier who ran amok. Hes been diagnosed with combat ptsd. Ive been trying to make this point all day because people dont understand. This is not a guy sitting around depressed. He clearly has issues. He tried to commit suicide in prison, tried to escape because the people there had him at one point tied to a bed four poster tying and the guards were betting amongst each other who could beat him the best. We have a u. S. Soldier being held, a marine, im a marine, i went through boot camp in 1974, this is the real deal right here. And this is a guy a troop that should not be left behind. The government has to do everything they can to get him back. The Rachel Maddow show starts now. Steve sitting in for rachel about. Thanks at home for joining us this hour. Rachel has the night off. Back in the early days of thensenator Barack Obamas president ial candidacy, back when he was just starting to run for the nomination against hillary clinton, go all the way back to then, even then he could

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