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people we'll be talking to. >> so you do want to talk to him at some point today? do you think it's a matter of time before you do a subpoena for mr. mayor giuliani? >> well, you know, it's a process. >> joining us now, co-founder of punchbowl news and friend of the show, jake sherman. jake, good morning. let's talk about the new subpoenas to start, what kind of information is the committee hoping to glean there? and in your estimation, how likely is it that rudy giuliani is also going to face a subpoena? >> almost certain that giuliani is going to face a subpoena, jon. there's no doubt about that. the larger question is will he testify? we don't know, what's going on quite consistently, it doesn't matter that a lot of these people testify because they have a lot of information. now on the other two, the two

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