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weakens president biden when he goes abroad to say we need unite the democracies of the world. i want to be clear. i applaud what he said. we are back. we're going to engage with our allies and we'll talk about values. that's exactly the right frame. but vladimir putin is out there. he's not alone, by the way. he's one of the most vocal voices throughout that says exactly that. that democracy is passe. democracy is dead. it is, liberalism has passed its prime. and we are in an ideological struggle with russia, with china, and we need to get our own house in order to make argument more effectively abroad. >> we know, i wonder if we're fighting the last war a little bit as well. finally the president of ukraine had get his meeting with the president, president biden, a signal to russia that we'll stand with ukraine. but russia is being hyper aggressive. you have all these cyber attacks. they say it's not them but they always say it's not them.

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