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organizers of the overall coup effort. the radicalized americans who turned up at the capitol on january six, they are not necessarily connections with people who had connections to the trump white house or two trump allies. how does prosecuting them get you to the people who organized the whole effort? >> again, we have to separate the two issues. that is exactly how you want to get to the organizers of the january six events. the wry of the insurrection, the rally. all of that. that is exactly how you would want to work your way up from the people who invaded the capitol or we're walking around as if it were a party to those who were beating the cops and to those who were funding in organizing it. but it doesn't get you to the broader question that happened over the months before about whether there was a criminal conspiracy to try and overturn the election. that is, frankly, what's the january six committee is doing. and it is in sort of an odd

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