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the guidelines, you risk losing your federal pay. you're no longer able to drill with the federal reserves. and you risk being removed from the united states national guard. so this is not a complicated issue. this is not some great issue of federalism or the 10th amendment. it's simply if you're going to play in my league you got to play by my rules. >> and when i first learned that the oklahoma governor was choosing this fight, we looked around to try to figure out if there was historical precedent. and there is historical precedent from a few different eras in u.s. history. including as recently as the 80s during the regan administration where some governors decided they didn't like particular deployments, didn't like the things the guardmen and guards women from their state were asked to do in terms of federal deployments. they fought on those grounds. but we couldn't find any

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