said he was doing in ukraine of may of this year? i don't know. by the end of this administration, are any of us ever going to be able to believe anyone ever again especially if they're associated with the highest levels of the u.s. government? will we ever regain our capacity to belief someone when they speak? i don't know. everybody else associated with this story says that we shouldn't believe lev on this. mr. giuliani says he didn't tell lev to say anything like that in ukraine. the guy from the ukrainian government who they met with in kiev says, yes, i did meet with lev and igor at that time in ukraine, but they didn't bring up military aid. the ukrainian government guy pointedly not bringing up the issue of whether they threatened to withhold the mike pence as well. it just doesn't address that part of it. igor, himself, or at least igor's lawyers who are quite a dream team now, his lawyers are one of paul manafort's lawyers and one of trump's russia lawyers, john daoud, igor admits