>> you know, the thousands of people from all corners of america who marched after george floyd was killed, what can they do now? what is the role of the collective in restorative justice? >> well, that's a great point. i think what they have to do is to do what northam did. if the -- the eyes can't see what the brain doesn't know, then know some more stuff. read jonathan capehart, read nicole hannah jones, read bell hooks, read people who can inform you, james baldwin, the fire next time, i would recommend every american read that book to grapple with the powerful articulation of the politics of grief that have besieged black people, the traumas we have endured, but the overcoming power of love to remake american society. without black forgiveness, america wouldn't be what it is today. >> that's for damn sure. quickly, professor dyson, what
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