view? >> i think the simplest way to think about it. the fever swamps have been the focal point, the pivot point. what they've decided to do in the last couple years that help explain that phenomenon with tucker carlson and fox, they're organizing power on what used to be considered the fringes. so it is not that it is brand new. alex jones has been around 20 plus years. a lot of things that alex jones says now are actually reflect in people in congress. they're actually reflected in main stream politics. and that is a consequence. right. very deliberate and intentionally, organizing power on the fringes. what took place january 6th was one externality. so the threat with marjorie