>> the senate because it has the two per state already has a sort of filibuster built into it structurally before you ever get to the senate rules. joe manchin's concern about protecting minority rights in the senate was actually done, i personally would argue, over done by the founders when they said two per state. >> absolutely. again, we're the only country that i know of, only democracy i know of that has a filler buster like rule that allows for permanent veto by a minority of legislation backed by a majority. this is a -- these are profoundly undemocratic institutions. >> the -- so when you look at today's discussion about the war on democracy because republicans