transparency, and just overall poor planning and no use of any best practices that you would see in a close election audit. >> stephen rickert's report shows there's at least one reasonable republican in a leadership position in arizona. do you think most republicans buy into the big lie or are they just staying silent? >> well, i think that for the most part, they are either on the side of the big lie or they're staying silent because they have too often seen the political consequences. and that's really unfortunate because i think it really is our democracy at stake here. and that's one of the reasons that i'm running for governor, is because we need real leaders who are going to stand up for what's right regardless of the political consequences. we need to put the partisanship aside and work on real issues. rehashing the 2020 election isn't one of those issues. >> compounding the travesty of