out. look, we've seen that in the press. the press has reported enormous amount of things while donald trump's been president. that's because people in government have been concerned about what they saw. and in, you know, at least the original whistle-blower complaint, this was someone who was outside the white house, that was taking such a risk to file a complaint to get this information to congress in the hopes that something -- something would happen. and that's just a different thing, a different sort of aspect that we're dealing with. >> and what do we know as of tonight about the committee's contact level with the first whistle-blower? have they been able to come to an agreement about any testimony from that whistle-blower? >> so we know that the committee wanted as early as last week to interview the whistle-blower, and that still has not happened. it's unclear why they haven't done that, but there are a lot of complications around this.

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