alvin bragg's office he does it all the time. >> they've done 177 times or something. >> at a minimum. for anything -- doesn't make a difference if you are donald trump, or joe schmo, you will get prosecuted but that was what jonathan and i were doing that picker. -- it has to be the falsification with the intent to commi another crime. so that is what we are going t look at the indictment o tuesday. to jen's point, for speaking with cy vance, is it the hus money payments not only do for stormy daniels, is it to carri mcdougal, for example? 's attacks of asian? or some type of tax fraud? could actually be somethin that nick akerman said when we are on jonathan show, tamperin with a witness dangling apart into michae cohen to get him to no cooperate for purposes o continuing it -- what happened? >> he suggested that might be rico charge. >> he did. when he said rico, my eyes lit up that told me, oh, that i something i should be paying attention to when th indictment comes out we are so focused on hush mone