going to bring katie in in a second, to explain to everyone the legalese of this, bu basically if this is going t be a felony, in needs to have component linked to election fraud, or something at tha federal level. so the question i was asking him prior to that, when he was giving that answer, was abou whether that was a holdup in him moving indictment forward, because there were so much conflicting, this is one of th questions, when he left at the end of 2021, there was a book, written by marc pomerantz that he referenced in our interview and this suggested that he recommended an indictment. he recommended that moving forward. allen brags sat on tha indictment so i did ask him about that, but i wanted to know what wa the holdup, if you didn't move forward for an indictment, which we know you didn't, what was the holdup of doing that so i asked him about tha secondary piece that would b required to make it a felony but katie can explain it further to us, and provide a little more legal leads. >> the ideas falsification o business record. it is a misdemeanor. that is a bread and butter for