in his entire life michael cohen refused to d that and so that a southern distric will not put on a case based o someone who refuses to do that full disclosure. i am glad to have lanny davi joining me at 10 pm, michael cohen's lawyer i will ask him about that. i'm not sure what they can say about. it but if michael cohen refuse to submit to the souther district processes for thi kind of thing, that is the reason why they could not have brought this case. >> we do also have though, i was sort of surprised to see this in the statement fact today, this recitation of a lo of things that are much more about forgive me, david pecker and american media, and th national enquirer, than th hour about michael cohen so yes, mr. cohen is a very bi part of the arrangements aroun four, example, the karen mcdougal payment, and certainl he is the main mover when it comes to the stormy daniel payment. but the overall scheme is very much as much about america media and david pecker as it i about mr. cohen. and that ends up being a interesting dynamic given th different types of immunit that were offered in different stages for different types o testimony, including fro
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