>> that's right. at the end of the day, you can talk about this in legal terms to, but at the end of the day think that if you had to bet right now about where this i going to go, this is going t be, they will be back in court maybe in december, they will b on trial maybe next spring it will go on i don't know, fo a couple of months maybe, in terms of the trial then at the end of this -- maybe we'll get convicted an he will pay a fine you know it i mean whoa that is what is going to happen but over the course of tha two-year period, he will hav to be in court all the time. they will be filing motions on his behalf he will potentially be dealing with gag orders. he will be subject to th criminal justice system and al of its humbling specificity. and that is good to have the kind of effect that both of yo
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