of these access laws, the idea that sunlight is the best disinfectant, and we're going to let people in on what government is doing and saying. and president trump is trying to protect his past records, and the supreme court is saying, even if you were still president, you wouldn't be able to assert this privilege, and you can't do so now that you're out of office. >> nick, same question. >> they're saying executive privilege just does not apply. you can't take executive privilege, other than what the supreme court said in 1974 other than military, diplomatic affairs. it doesn't cover an insurrection. even if trump were president