stone about the war. >> the afghan war when you look at it is about the united states verses the taliban but verses the civilian population as it was if vietnam. we fought the nba and viet congs, the real losers are the civilians. >> i am not the biggest fan of roger stone but i feel like he's great to ask about putin. >> julia, i will let you finish but -- you know people have different areas of lanes of expertise. i understand what you are coming from but we did not get into the