Policies, and donald trump is running on vibes. it is a vibes base campaign. and the question fundamentally when it comes to turnout is -- >> vibes is too polite a word. >> anger, resentment, ancient nightmares awakened in the bloodstream the people who feel like they're being threatened by non-threats. >> i have a different view. i want to see the person advising biden on the politics of immigration fired. i think he has been behind the curve on this. he has let the republicans take this to a place that should not go. >> from a narrative perspective, but not a policy perspective. what have they done on the policy front? >> from a narrative perspective, if he is doing what he is doing now, why could he not have done that months ago? >> fine. fine. you can argue with when he did it. but now he is doing it. now he is doing it. what have republicans done? >> nothing. they have objected to a deal that was apparently done, that was agreed to by republicans.