good will come of this. >> joining us now is nevada congressman steven horsford. he is chair of the congressional black caucus, who invited tyre nichols's parents as guests a night, as well as siblings and parents, family members, in a number of other people who had been killed in police violence. congressman horsford, i really appreciate you taking the time to be with us tonight. thank you. >> it's my honor. thank you for having me. >> we were talking here at msnbc earlier tonight in the immediate aftermath of the presidents speech about that moment in the speech, then went on at length, the president talked about this issue, not as a sort of dance card punch, as a thing to get through on a list of policy, a list of long policies, he spent a long time, and certainly the most emotional time of the, speech and and extended discussion, about the sort of grand moral empathy required of us, as americans, to try to fix this problem. it was a surprising, i think, turn in the speech. i think it was very effective.