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unclear. >> so many different points we look at, again, to the real economy, steve. i want to include in that, and i think stephanie talked about it, this disconnect. yes, people's wages are going up but they're not going up as much as inflation is going up. and so their real cost, buying power, essentially, is going down. if we look at a strong economy, if we look at a strong jobs market, when might those two things start to balance out a little more for the average american? as stephanie points out, not the wealthy american but the everyday and struggling american. >> yeah. a quick point, chris, on what you were talking about with energy. you're right. the natural gas side of things being pressured by the way, by the effort to send liquefied natural gas over to europe to replace russian natural gas. you're right about that, a hit from two sides, both in the gas tank and in the natural gas that's being bought. in terms of the economy and

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