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what's your reaction to that? >> i think this, again, is just a reflection of the times that we live in rather than indicating any sort of bias for criminal defendants because she has a record on the bench that demonstrates that her sentences are very fair, that her rule rgs in the mainstream of fetd ral judges. this really indicate what is a strong supporter she is of the constitution. working as a defender is in many ways thankless work. -- in the district of columbia encountering many of the issues that she'll be asked to decide as a supreme court justice. if anything, this prior job signifies her commitment to the rule of law, but it also gives us some assurance about her credentials, that she understands these important criminal issues that make up a large proportion of the supreme court's docket and that she'll be fully prepared to handle them. >> joyce vance and c.k., thanks for being with us this morning.

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