backlash the likes of which we've never seen before. i also want to point out that beyond doctor gay, and we should be talking about her, for sure, i would also like to lift up the voices of black women who are in academia. because i think they are facing some enormous inequity challenges. i don't know if you know, but they are only 2% of black women are tenured faculty. less than 2% are full professors. this is a problem. so i hope that the conversation will also broaden to talk about the ways in which black women, both inside of academia and also outside, are facing challenges. >> and i noticed the talk about dei. they don't say what it is. diversity, equity, and inclusion. so people who don't know what dei is -- they're saying where against equity, diversity, and inclusion. that's what they're saying. but looking back on higher