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Youre asked about your address, your date of birth. Youre not asked health information, so why are we going down this path . Youre trying to scare people so they dont apply. And contractors hired by the administration were grilled for hours today by both House Republicans and democrats on who is to blame for this, quote, disastrous rollout. Did any of you come forth to the administration and say, this thing may not be ready on october 1st, we might want a delay until we can get it right . Any hands up . No. Either you didnt know about these problems or you knew about them and chose not to disclose them. Which one is it . So chairman, from a cgi perspective, our portion of the application worked as designed. The endtoend testing was the responsibility of cms. All of the concerns that we had, which were mostly related to testing and the inability to get as much testing as we would have liked, we expressed all of those concerns and risks to cms. We did not anticipate any sort of problems with our connection and have not experienced any. Just give me something to tell these people that ive related to you that are real people, honest people that have to live with what you all have created. I would tell your constituents that the system is improving day over day. You keep speaking about unexpected volumes, ms. Campbell. That really sticks in my crock. Amazon and ebay dont crash the week before christmas and proflowers doesnt crash on valentines day. There are people there. Im going to venture to guess that the regular bureaucrats did their job. The political appointees manipulated the system to hide data they didnt want the public to know. And were going to find out who that is. Cgi, the primary contractor for the site, assured the committee the problems will be fixed in time for people to get Health Coverage starting january 1st. Nbc news capitol hill correspondent luke russert joins us. Luke, that was just a poe purr ri of some of what the members of congress had to say. But the bottom line here, you had one member of congress say, what do i tell my constituents . At this point, it seems to me the meat that you can hold on to, if it is accurate from these contractors, is that these problems will be fixed and people will be able to start their health care january 1st if theyre enrolled early. Yeah, thats one of the things that we were able to obtain from this hearing, tamron. While there are these glitches and there are these problems, the general gist was that by the time folks need to be enrolled and if they want to enroll by that important deadline, they should be able to do that without problem. I dont think that takes away, though, from what you see here, which is kind of what youve seen before in government where you have these total arguments between contractors and the contractors blame each other and say, we did the proper thing on our end, it was a lack of oversight by the governments part that led us into this mess. Specifically the criticism from the contractors here was on the role of cms, the center for medicare and medicaid systems and what they had to do with it. From listening to this hearing, what they claim is, look, we had our stuff working, but when you pull it all together, which is the responsibility of the government and this specific organization, they did not do their job in making that happen. Thats why i think next weeks hearing when Kathleen Sebelius of hhs will be on capitol hill as well as maryland tavaner of cms. Theyll face a lot of heat and well know more about the governments direct role. Which then leads back to, i think, what at least some who have been critical of the process and when i say some, we include republicans and democrats who eventually want to know who is to blame and who should resign or be fired, what heads will roll. Yeah, where does the buck stop . As of right now from this hearing its unclear where it goes. We do not know specifically who is to blame. It seems, though, this miss maryland tavaner from cms is getting the majority of it by saying this group was supposed to test out these faults and figure out a way forward. Well probably find that out next week. But in this situation, you see the contractors going back and forth, no one wanting to take direct responsibility. In terms of what it means to the american people, i think watching a hearing like this, they go thats just business as usual in d. C. No one wants to take responsibility, passing it off on each other, and everyone is trying to make a political point of it. That was the one thing you saw democrats saying there. Why are you making this so scary to the american people, trying to persuade them not to sign up. Lets try and fix the problems. Republicans, they dont want to talk about anything that has to do with the shutdown and debt limit last week. This is red meat for them. Expect this to continue politically next week. All right. Thank you very much, luke. By the way, in just the past half hour, we did get the first of what will now be daily updates on the improvements to the healthcare. Gov website. This was announced yesterday, that the administration had decided the best way forward perhaps in dealing with this crisis is to give the public, you, more information. On a conference call, government officials insisted more and more people are now able to sign up for Health Coverage. Meantime, in just about two hours from now, health and Human Services secretary Kathleen Sebelius will tour one of these call centers weve talked so much about, one thats actually in phoenix, arizona, and had a closeddoor meeting with people who work there. Joining me now, Washington Post reporter. Lets start with this hearing today. I dont think its a huge surprise you have a couple of contractors who are all kind of slightly or maybe even directly pointing the finger at someone else. This is what happens when any Company Brings in all parties when somethings been screwed up and they say, who is to blame . Rare is a person to stand up and say, im the one who messed this whole thing up. Right. Actual actually, if you read their written testimony, they do acknowledge that parts of the things they built are not working properly. But the way theyre describing it is theyre saying those issues would not have come to light if there had been more testing. I think one thing that was really interesting is that one of the contractors, qssi, said they had been keeping cms, the government, apprised of risks and concerns all the way up until october 1st. But we dont know what it is they said to cms. We dont know who they said it to. We dont know what cms reaction was. We know secretary sebelius will answer some questions today, were told, after she meets with the folks here at this call center in arizona. I want to read a little bit of what editor of the National Review said in an opinion piece for politico. He writes, Kathleen Sebelius is the obama care rollout, what fema director Michael Brown was to Hurricane Katrina response. He goes on to note that brown was gone two weeks after the storm where sebelius looks to be in a place for grim duration of the effort to right healthcare. Gov. And i want to play what former white house chief of staff bill daly said this morning on cbs this morning. Lets play it. Some people are calling for her to be fired. To me, thats like firing captain smith on the titanic after it hit the iceberg. Its not going to do much right now. I think theyve got to get it fixed. Theyve got to get it straightened out. Then theres a question, obviously, whether there need to be new leadership at that department, not only with the secretary but other things going forward. Again, reiterating what we said earlier, these contractors at the hearing said that they believe these problems will be fixed and those who are able to enroll, start the enrollment january 1st will be able to do so. But that does not leave this lingering issue of Kathleen Sebelius and whats to happen to her or someone in the department solved. Well, before you get to there, i mean, you said that shes going to be at the call center. You know, one of the things the administration has said is dont worry, if you cant get through online, you can always call the call center or do a paper application. I would just like to point out, you call somebody at the call center, guess what . They still have to enter your information into the same healthcare. Gov. Its just that they dont go through the same portal. You know, you go through the front door as a consumer. They go through a different way. They still have to go into that system. That system is still having errors in the back end where the subsidies are calculated, where the insurers get information. That is thats why this is a more serious issue. Same thing for the paper applications. The paper applications are processed by people who also have to go back and log on to healthcare. Gov to figure out what youre eligible for, whether youre eligible for medicaid or a subsidy to help you buy private insurance. So with that said, and youre absolutely right to make those points, what is a satisfactory point or conclusion of this week that youre looking for . Well, i think this one contractor said that they had posed risks and concerns to cms. I would like to know what it was that they highlighted, the degree of seriousness, and whether and i think people would want to know how far up the chain were those concerns passed. You know, you heard the contractors were asked again and again, did you raise issues with cms and, you know, the sense you got was, well, if we raised them, it didnt seem to do any good. This one contractor from qssi did say they had these risks and concerns they shared with cms all along. It would be interesting to find out if they follow up on where that information went. All right. Thank you very much for joining us today. And we are following developing news. U. S. Officials say two americans have been kidnapped by armed pirates, this happening off the coast of nigeria. The pirates abducted the captain and chief engineer of the American Flag oil supply vessel sea retriever in west africas gulf. The ship is owned by a louisianabased Oil Transport company, which is yet to comment on this incident. International Officials Say a tax o attacks off nigerias coast have jumped a third this year. Mick, do we have any information on whether or not officials are planning another rescue . Whats the latest . Heres whats particularly vexing about that particular hijacking and kidnapping. If they simply hijacked a ship, thats easy to see and spot at sea. But in this case, once the pirates took the two americans off the ship, thats where the intelligence chain had been broken. They have no idea where they are, no indication yet there will be any kind of military attempt to rescue the two americans who have been taken hostage. I can tell you that in that region, as you pointed out, hijackings and pirate attacks against ships have been up 30 wile in the rest of the world those piracy attacks against ships have gone down. So at this point, there is no indication, no idea of the whereabouts of these two hostages and whether or not there can be a rescue. Most u. S. Officials believe this will result in what has really evolved there into a kidnapping Cottage Industry where a ransom will eventually be paid for their release. I do want to bring to your attention, though, a totally separate story. U. S. Navy officials are confirming now that the u. S. Navy base in millington, tennessee, is in lockdown. There are Police Reports from millington, tennessee, that at least four people have been shot at that u. S. Navy base, which is a recruiting command for the u. S. Navy. Details are very sketchy at this time. Navy officials are describing this as an ongoing shooting standoff. Mick, i need you to stick around. To your point, were waiting for confirmation. Youve been able to get this confirmation of this shooting. Millington navy base. Can you tell me more about this base and any other details . I know were just getting this breaking news. Again, how many people believed to have been shot . Well, reportedly, according to Police Reports, as many as four people have been shot. No idea on the conditions, no idea on if theres one or more shooters on the base. Its all very sketchy. Its evolving as we speak. Millington, its landlocked there in tennessee, is the recruiting base, recruiting command for the u. S. Navy. Again, were just getting all the fresh reports as theyre coming in, but Navy Officials do confirm theres an active shooting situation at the base. Police in the region report as many as four wounded. Okay, mick. I know youre going to work to get more details. Im going to let you go. Hopefully well get some more information on this breaking news. As you pointed out, this is Millington Navy base. It is on lockdown. If we have more information, guys, you can bring me this information. What were watching now is another situation after the Navy Yard Shooting that took place right outside of d. C. We now have information, mick confirming this on air for us just now, that shots fired, at least four people may have been shot at this Millington Navy base in tennessee. It is now on lockdown. We dont have any information regarding the shooter, if this is an active situation, meaning if the person is still on the grounds, firing shots. What we do know, there are choppers on the scene, ground crews on the way from local television stations near and around there. At this point, there are reporters that there was a shooting at Millington Navy base. Were working to get more information on this. Mick points out an nbc station is reporting that at least two people shot here. So were awaiting more details, and well bring this to you as soon as possible. Were going to go to a quick break and well be right back with this breaking news. Aying wy has never been our priority. 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This is a google maps view, if you will, of the location where the shooting has taken place on this navy base. Jim was on with us just a short time ago with this breaking news. Basically, this base is a recruiting base, and were hoping to get better images in so that you can see where this base is located and kind of the layout of what were discussing. Right now there are reports that at least four people were shot on Millington Navy base. The base itself is on lockdown. According to the latest information, a shooter is in custody. On the website for the base itself, they consider themselves part of the navy region midwest. It is a Navy Installations command. We are working to get more information. Jim may be able to join us here with more details on this shooting. As soon as we get more information, well certainly bring it. Again, this is the limited details. Im sorry to say its very limited details we have at this point. Wmctv is reporting four people shot. Were awaiting more information. We well bring you the latest from this incident. And the Massachusetts High School student accused of killing a math teacher was, in fact, one of her students. Investigators say interviewed with 14yearold Phillip Chism along with Surveillance Video led to his arrest in the murder of colleen ritzer. Officials still do not have a motive. Meanwhile, emotional friends of ritzer spoke out this morning on the today show. She had so much to look forward to. There were so many things that she should have been able to do, and its just not fair that shes not going to be able to do all those things she deserves. She was that person who deserves every good thing in life. Boston globe reporter david abel joins me now. Thank you for your time. Obviously, the question is why this happened. Had police indicated anymore information or given anymore information on a possible motive here to you . Unfortunately, we still cant answer that question. We are, however, now reporting online some new information. What weve learned today is that Phillip Chism was this young teachers student in her last period algebra class. Apparently the teacher had seen him drawing while she was speaking before the class. According to some of the students we interviewed, she apparently asked him to stay after class out of concern that he might have questions or issues for an upcoming test. Apparently he had stayed after class, and were not sure exactly the details about what happened after that. What more do we know about his background, and what are his parents saying . Well, we havent heard from the parents yet. We know that hes from tennessee and that his father was in the military. His parents were divorced. He moved to boston or the boston area, the town here called danvers, this summer and just started school. Back to the investigation, david. As i understand, theres Surveillance Video. I saw a report that there were multiple cameras in and around that school that may assist police in piecing this awful case together. Right. Some of the footage that weve learned about involves images of philip chism using a pushing a recycling bin through the classroom or through the hallways of the school. That apparently may have contained Colleen Ritzers body. David abel, thank you so much for the latest on the investigation there. Obviously people want to know what happened to this beloved teacher, why this happened. Thank you. And we continue to follow the breaking news out of tennessee where there has been a shooting at a naval installation there, Millington Naval base. Jim is standing by. Mick, i understand you have more information for us. Thats right, tamron. U. S. Navy officials telling nbc news that the shooting actually occurred next to the base in a National Guard armory. According to officials, three National Guardsmen believed to be army got into some kind of argument. One of them allegedly pulled a pistol, shot one of the other men in the foot, shot another National Guardsman, allegedly, in the leg. Now, that situation, according to Navy Officials, is under control. The gunman has been taken into custody by both navy and local police. The situation according to Navy Officials is pretty much under control, but the navy base itself remains under lockdown as a precaution. So originally it was reported as many as four people had been shot by local police, but again it was three National Guardsmen got into an argument, one shot in the foot, one shot in the leg. The shooter, the alleged shooter is in custody as we speak. All right, mick. Thank you so much for getting these details for us. We greatly appreciate it. Well be right back. Has its ups and downs. Seasonal. Doesnt begin to describe it. My cashflow can literally change with the weather. Anything that gives me some breathing room makes a big difference. 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The woman says shes willing to take a dna test and wants the child back if it is, in fact, her daughter. A roma couple in greece currently under arrest, but there are emerging questions on exactly what sparked the initial interest of authorities. Joining me now, Research Fellow at Hoover Institution at stanford. He wrote the incredible article titled rescued by racism. He asked why the world was immediately captivated by maria. Thank you so much for joining me. I must admit, as i told you, i followed this story from the very beginning. This mysterious blond child that had been found, and you bring up something i think incredible. You write, not since faye ray found herself in the black clutches of king kong has a blond ignited the global imagination as has maria. Why did you have that reaction to the story . Well, i had the reaction because, you know, it was a tiny story that happened in an obscure gypsy camp in an obscure part of greece. Cops investigated a family looking for drugs and weapons and, in fact, found a blond child. Immediately on the mere observation of this blond child switched off their old investigation and assumed this couple had abducted the blond girl. This escalated from an obscure corner of greece into a global incident. I was fascinated by the theater of hysteria that resulted in this. Many would say the police were doing quote unquote good detective work. If you see a child and she seems or he seems out of place, why not pursue that . This is a deeper issue for you on color and race here. No, no. My sympathies are with the child. I do hope she finds her parents, if her parents are fit to receive her. What im worried about is really the series of assumptions that were made by the press reporting the story. The child was immediately typecast as a blond angel, a blond angel found in the custody of these dark people. It was a sense there was racial hysteria. There was a sense of the natural order, the natural racial order being violated in some way. Youre absolutely right. Every headline, if people go online online, it comes up blond angel. You also wrote, disturbing is the fixation on the blondness of the child. Her blondness is what these dark people coveted. Exactly. The news stories point to the fact there were six other children of dubious providence in this couples home. We havent heard from them. We dont know their names. We havent had any footage. We havent had any description of them as little angels. Im curious about the reaction youve received to your piece. Well, ive had i try not to read commenters who write at the end. I think a lot of people have come and said, oh, gosh, i wish we had woken up to this reaction earlier. A lot of people are ashamed there was this eruption of interest purely on the basis of the childs race before people actually paused for deeper psychological questions. Incredible piece. People should go on the daily beast and read more about it. Thank you for your time. Thank you. And still ahead, marylands attorney general photographed at a party where underage kids were drinking. He claims he had no moral obligation to stop it. In the past hour, hes saying something different, and its our news nation gut check. And just weeks after eight house members were arrested at an immigration protest, president obama urges members to take up the bill, already approved by the senate. Its good for our economy. Its good for our national security. Its good for our people. And we should do it this year. Hold it steady now. I know daddy. [ dad ] oh boy, fasten your seatbelts everybody. [ mixer whirring ] bounty selectasize. Its the smaller powerful sheet, that acts like a big sheet. Look one selectasize sheet of bounty is 50 more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. [ humming ] [ dad ] use less with the small but powerful picker upper. 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The return to immigration comes weeks after several lawmakers were arrested at a rally in front of the capitol. Today the president admitted the current climate in d. C. Will make any movement on immigration difficult. Now, obviously just because something is smart and fair and good for the economy and fiscally responsible and supported by business and labor and the evangelical community and Many Democrats and many republicans, that does not mean it will actually get done. Well, yesterday Speaker John Boehner raised the possibility that the house could bring up a bill before the end of the year. I still think Immigration Reform is an important subject that needs to be addressed. Im hopeful. Joining me now, nbcs latino contributor raul reyes. Speaker boehner is hopeful, but let me play what congressman labrador, republican from idaho, what he said last week regarding negotiations over Immigration Reform. Lets play it. I think it would be crazy for the House Republican leadership to enter into negotiations with him on immigration. And im a proponent of Immigration Reform. So i think what he has done over the last 2 1 2 weeks, hes trying to destroy the Republican Party, and i think that anything that we do right now with this president on immigration will be with that same goal in mind. So yet again we have Speaker Boehner speaking of the possibility of something, but then members of his own party using words like its crazy, the president s trying to destroy the party. Wheres the optimism . Well, listen, i still share Speaker Boehners optimism, but in those two sound clips why, exactly . Because as the president mentioned in his clip, theres so much in support of it. The religious community, the faith community, business, labor. All of these people are on board this time who were not last time. But in a nutshell, the situation we have is the leadership wants it and that small extreme caucus will not let it go forward. Let me pause you there. You were saying exactly what was said regarding new gun safety laws. Right. That people overwhelmingly supported it in polling, churches, reasonable minds saw that there could be some kind of consensus on reasonable gun control and nothing. And yet, you know, we have to remember, when were talking about Immigration Reform, this is an issue that continues. Its still very energizing for the latino community. We have a generation of younger activists. The president actually encouraged them today. He said, continue the activism. They are not afraid to demonstrate, to go right up to the white house to continue to try and push things and move it along. Coming out of this shutdown, you know, theres two ways to look at it. One is that the republicans desperately need to recoup in some way and regain public support. Thats unlikely right now given this very irrational caucus. The other way we can look at it is now theyve backed themselves in a corner. Speaker boehner may have to break down as he did before. Hes done it five times this year and allow a vote. There are 28 House Republicans who are in support of comprehensive reform. It could pass. The Immigration Reform could pass in the house. Okay. Let me play what senator marco rubio said on fox news sunday, someone who supposed to be the face of Immigration Reform for republicans but certainly now is seen as being damaged by his stance. Lets play it. The president has undermined this effort. Immigration reform is a lot harder to achieve today than it was just three weeks ago because of whats happened here. If the president is seen as someone whos trying to take down the party, that Immigration Reform, the passage would be a victory for him. Again, what would motivate some of the republicans who are still licking their wounds over the Government Shutdown and the debacle that will we watched play out here. Not only that, many of them in the aftermath of this fiscal crisis, many of them are even more resistant to doing anything that would benefit president obama and his administration. But staring them in the face is reality. Sooner or later this is an issue thats not going to go away. Although right now marco rubio is not being a Good Team Player who is the Good Team Player in it the Republican Party as you see it . Who is leading this charge . Right now i believe mr. Diaz because hes still trying to work within the house. The house gang of seven has fallen apart, but hes hanging in there, unlike raul labrador, who abandoned the group over the health care issue. Hes still continuing the fight. The sad fact is we are 119 days out from when the Senate Passed their bill. Even though the house loves to say that the calendar is against them, theres only so many days to make this happen, they control the calendar. Speaker boehner could add days to that calendar. They could make it happen. Raul reyes, thank you very much, sir. Still ahead, Luxury Department store Barneys New York accused of racially profiling customers. One alleged event involves a College Student who saved his money up to buy a 350 belt but ended up in cuffs. They was asking me questions like, where did i get this money from, how i got the money. What the Luxury Department store is saying and why some are now calling for jayz to get involved. An imptant msage for icans eligle an imptant msage for for medicare. The annual Enrollment Period is now open. Now is the time to find the coverage thats right for you. At the right price. The way to do that is to explore your options. You can spend hours doing that yourself. 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Well, a second shopper is now coming forward accusing highend retailer Barneys New York of racially profiling one day after a teenage student filed a lawsuit claiming that he was wrongfully detained for buying an expensive belt at the store. The 19yearold says he was hand kufd and locked in a jail cell after buying a 350 belt from barneys back in april. According to the lawsuit, the checkout clerk asked to see his i. D. , and after the sale went through and he left the store, he was approached by officers about a block away. Christian says they asked him how he could afford the purchase then hauled him to the precinct where he showed them his i. D. As well and his debit card and even the receipt. They was asking me questions like where did i get this money from, how i got the money, where do i work at, what school i go to. Everything is legit. My card and everything is legit. I work. Why would anything be a problem . Well, a barneys spokesperson responded in part saying, the company has zero tolerance for any form of discrimination. After the ordeal, the teen ended up returning the belt, saying he wanted nothing to do with it. Thegrio. Coms associate producer joins me now. You have star jones and other celebrities saying they wont shop. Let me read stars tweet. Looks like im going to have to push barneys on timeout. Quest love says, guess where i wont be Christmas Shopping for mom this year shame. Barneys statement has not s satisfied a lot of people. No, it hasnt. They say they have a zero tolerance for any sort of discrimination policy in their store. These stars are come out. The store has been labeled as being hypocritical because theyve launched this new line with jayz, whos arguably one of the most iconic figures in the black community. Now theyre being labeled as hypocritical because theyre targeting the clientele they hope to attract in the future. What does barneys say here . Theyve released the same statement theyve released to the mass media saying they deny any sort of racial allegations or racial claims associated with the case and they have no tolerance for discrimination. That doesnt seem to satisfy a lot of people because the store has received a ton of backlash. And the other incident we mentioned, a second shopper, a young lady purchased a 2300 handbag with her tax return. As she walked out of the store, similar to this other case, she was followed and pulled over. In her instance, there are four Plainclothed Police officers that approached her at a subway station. They asked her questions about how she was able to afford the purchase, what she does for an occupation. Shes filed a notice of claim suit against the city. The reverend als National Action Network Brooklyn chapter is seeking a meeting with barneys ceo mark lee. Where does that stand . They plan on taking the meeting, but they have said they plan to take any sort of proper action if these racial claims do not stop, specifically related to barneys. Back to the jayz thing here. Jayz has collaborated with barneys for an upcoming holiday collection. Some of the items range from 70 to 33,000. That is a watch with an alligator strap, in case you were wondering. But nevertheless, there is a call for jayz, whos not commented yeah, hes not commented yet. We have reached out to h spokespeople. We expect him to make a comment in the future along with other stars who have come out and come forward to talk about this. He has a large part, a role in barneys. So we do expect him to make a statement. And lets be clear. This lawsuit is against barneys, but we both live here in new york. There is this culture certainly the fifth avenue attitude up and down that street where certain people are seen as certain people as in black people seen as undesirable customers. You hear these issues not exclusive to barneys. Definitely not. Its a sad reality. Weve seen these cases reflected many times this year alone. Night clubs have been a problem as well. Even beyond that. We heard the president say hes had difficulty in the past trying to hail down a cab in new york to oprahs recent incident with a swiss clerk. There are different variations of racial profiling cases. Stop and frisk has been claimed unconstitutional, so hopefully some sort of justice will be found in this situation. The kids are calling this shopping while black. It is what it is. Thank you. Appreciate it. Still ahead, marylands attorney general now changing his tune after this picture was taken of him at a teenage party while drinking was taking place. He says it wasnt his responsibility to stop them. Its our news nation gut check. Katy perry is coming to town. Can we get tickets, please . . . Sure how many . Thank you, thank you, thank you seriously . 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Marylands attorney general doug gansler is responding to critics after he was seen attending a High School Party where many teenagers were reportedly drinking. In the picture here obtained by the Baltimore Sun, gansler is seen holding up his cell phone while other teens are seen dancing on a table with rest plastic cups. According to the sun, the party was held this summer at a house in delaware, rented by a group of parents, including gansler. After initially telling the paper he had no moral authority over other peoples children, in the past hour, he seemed to backtrack. This was a dance party with loud music, and there may have been some College Students or others drinking beer. I just dont know. But the party was chaperoned by adults. But should i as a parent have tried to determine whether there was drinking by other children in the house or ask the chaperons whether there was drinking going on . Perhaps i should have assumed there was drinking going on and i got that wrong. Joining me now, sirius xms michael smerconish, also an msnbc contributor and a great dad. What would you have done, michael . Well, two nights ago our 17yearold came to us at dinner and said, this summer i want to go in on a senior house. Theres nothing new about senior houses. Theyre as old as time. I have a suspicion i dont know what that is. Im sorry. What is a senior house . Senior house is youve graduated, you hang out with your buddies and throw parties. Yes, beer is consumed. My hunch is that the senior house that my son envisions looks very much like the senior house in that picture. So heres the question that i ask as a parent. Is my son safer in a house like that where adults are present, as was the case in this circumstance, where they had rules, no hard liquor, nobody drives, and no boys and girls behind closed doors, or is he safer without me there . Now, i know the obvious answer is hes safer not being in an environment like that, but this is the reality. This goes on. Its hard to defend this guy if hes now not going to defend himself because the Baltimore Sun lays the whole thing out. The parents were apparently in on it. They paid. They wanted to keep the kids protected. Now he seems to be saying something different. I think theres a lot of things to be discussed here. But the bigger issue is that, yes, hes a parent, but he wants to be the governor of maryland. He seemed to at this News Conference try to split the baby. On one half, he wanted to process it as a parent. The other, as a person whod like to be the governor here. We have laws for a reason. I mean, listen, im not a prude here. Im not saying you have to live in a square world, but there are laws that exist for a reason. Look, we all have had those circumstances. I certainly did where you lose someone from your high school class. You know, you say there but for the grace of god go all of us. We dont want our kids drinking and driving. When you really get down to it, the issue is, so what is going to keep them off the road . Is it going to be a lack of any supervision . You look at this picture carefully. Hes not the only adult in the room. In the background i see two other men who look significantly older than the kid. Well, i cant tell because theres so many shirtless people, but the bottom line is, michael, the number of kids, i think, stuck out to me. I think it would be one thing if this was a smaller, controlled group. But you have a lot of kids there. I dont know what the parent kid ratio was. The second thing that struck me, my team got into a heated conversation. I think it sometimes implies that you cannot have fun unless theres alcohol. When youre 19, i mean, listen, its one thing to have a glass of wine at dinner, but this kind of partying does tell your kids and any kid you cant have fun unless youre popping bottles or you got a keg around. I dont think thats a proper message. Im not a parent though. So you tell me. You know, i look at those kids and i say, 19, really . They could be going off to iraq or afghanistan. Theres a whole other issue here about whether the age is where it needs to be. The feds got heavy handed with the auto moneys a couple years ago. Otherwise that might be the case. I can see it both ways. I hear all the condemnation, and im just saying there are two sides to this. Okay, michael. Thank you so much. So what does your gut tell you . Do you think marylands attorney general had a moral obligation to stop those teens from partying . Go to facebook. Com newsnation. That does it for us. See you tomorrow. The cycle is up next. [ both cheer ] got it i. Did not get it. [ female announcer ] you may not be the best with a smart phone but you know whats best for your kids. So we listened when you said gogurt should have only natural colors and flavors and no high fructose corn syrup. Thanks, mom. You feel. Congested. Beat down. Crushed. 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