president biden is to make very clear that he is going to pay a price if he tries to invade the ukraine, and a heavy price at that, both in terms of his economy, the potential of using cyber against his infrastructure and his economy. the potential that we will continue to strengthen nato and deploy our forces to nato, and the fact that we'll provide military assistance to the ukraine. i think we've made pretty clear that he's going to pay a price, and that, frankly, is our leverage in trying to negotiate with this bully. >> i hear you, but that leverage, if you're in putin's shoes, you've withstood all the other prices. you've been able to afford it or at least, you know, what is the price that's bigger than sanctions, and let me ask you this. is the cia ready run another covid war because there's no doubt president biden -- we're not getting involved in a hot war here. it's going to be on your former