with. so, you have to balance these things out. i think these two programs, over a tremendous balancing act that we got to get past and go out and tell the american people exactly what we've done. if we do that, i think we'll be fine come 2022. >> congressman jim clyburn, democrat from south carolina, number three in house leadership. always a pleasure to get your perspective, particularly on a day like this. thanks for coming on. >> thank you very much for having me. >> you got it. let me turn now to that deadlocked gubernatorial race in new jersey, not only is the race too close to call between democrat phil murphy and republican jack ciattarelli. just a confusion over the vote counting itself. anyway, ehema ellis joins us from hoboken. rehema, i'm focused on that because i get a sense that
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