that perhaps president zelensky wasn't going to be the reformer that he campaigned on? >> uh, that was a supposition that i made because of the meeting with the president on may 23rd, i thought that could be what's behind it. >> in fact the aid was lifted shortly after he was able to convene a parliament? >> i believe he -- let me get the dates straight. i believe, yes, he was able to convene the parliament around the first of september and i believe the aid was released on the 11th of september. >> when he was able to convene the parliament, he was able to push through a number of anticorruption initiatives? >> that began with the parliament seated that day, it was a 24-hour session, and it continued for some time. >> and that was an encouraging sign? >> it started off in a very encouraging way, yes. >> and other than these things going on in the background, with the pause in the aid, the u.s. relations with ukraine, you testified, are -- you stated it
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