funny, i would assume that you try to get it done before iowa. >> can i just say one thing, chuck? you know, joe biden for months has wanted this to be a man owe mano y mano race with trump. it is going to get so ugly. calling on biden to release the transcripts of all his calls with the uniqkrainian governmen the chinese government. they are going to play this so hard. joe biden has not shown us he's ready for that kind of combat. >> go ahead. >> it's not just policy. this is when you asked about the checker speech. this is his son. >> yes. >> if he acts like this is happening to somebody else. >> he won't do that and i agree with you. >> but if he doesn't, it's going to seem like he's covering or hiding or that he doesn't feel it right. so it's a tricky moment, but it's a serious moment for him. >> let me sneak in a presidential candidate. because we were just talking about it.
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