few minutes ago in paris. katty kay, the president echoing some of the themes we heard in his speech in normandy yesterday, talking about the importance of alliances, talking about the importance of the alliance of the west, standing the test of time, saying yesterday that we hope that 80 years from now, people will say of us that we met the moment, this test of our ages, the way the men behind me met that test 80 years ago. important symbolism but also practical conversations here about the war going forward in ukraine. >> interesting that it was those kinds of appeals to democracy and meeting the test of time that actually, in the end, persuaded mike johnson to sign that, to get that bill passed through the house and give the ukrainians the aid they needed. it was a powerful argument, it seemed at least for him. look, it is very interesting to hear joe biden apologizing to the president of ukraine for that holdup. also saying to him, look, we are with you, and we will always be with you. because in europe and in ukraine now, there's some doubt about

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