his predecessors in the soviet union down in afghanistan. there's no reason the russians can't continue using standoff missiles, the war against ukraine's population. if their overall goal is to depopulate eastern ukraine, to keep ukraine from becoming a viable country, it's quite possible the ground war russia will pull back from it, the army, the war between the armies, they'll continue the war against the population, and that then becomes a conflict, rather than again, agree to a formal peace agreement where mr. putin would have to compromise and potentially look weak. it's quite possible he will continue the war against the ukrainian people for some time, particularly and this is where i slightly disagree with the previous conversation, if he could continue getting sufficient receipts from energy sales, and it's going to be very very hard for europe to turn off that spigot. it's a very gradual thing. we have liquified natural gas. they don't have the terminals to absorb significant amounts of