personally and see how far he can get on ukraine without suffering major, major backlash, but none of those things apply in taiwan. thankfully i would say. i'm the chinese government right now, i'm thinking when might there be an american president who is much less concerned about china, about american allies in the pacific, is much more transactional, or maybe when is there a constitutional crisis when the americans don't know who the president is for a period of weeks or months. that's a much more opportune time for the chinese to shake the branches and see if any fruit falls off. it is certainly not right now. >> ian bremmer and fred kemp of the atlantic council, thank you both for joining us. i'm sure we will see you soon i'm sure. coming up on "morning joe," incidents of gun violence are on the rise. we will have the latest on a new wave and an encounter that left a young nypd officer dead. also ahead, we will tell you