>> it's from clickbaits on various social platforms to liesle. we're seeing the deformation of the ill-informed, misinformed citizenry making decisions about the country. i don't know how we survive that. >> by the way, willie, we talk about this among ourselves, that there's always -- you know, you read the papers. you think the people who are looking to these facebook postings or you take the chinese-driven websites, they're walking out of caves. no, no, no. they're people with advanced degrees. in fact, some of the smarter people i met in my life, pre-trump who were moderate gerald ford republicans with law degrees, with other advanced degrees, falling for it too.
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