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i guess the question is, the people who took a flyer on donald trump in 2016 for all the reasons that jon just laid out because he was disruptive and overturn the tables in washington, what do they do is now his hard core support is not going anywhere. the hillary clinton hard core supporters aren't going anywhere in terms of democratic support. what about those people in the middle among those 77,000 votes who took a flyer on donald trump? >> i mean there's the million dollars question, right, is do they come back to support trump? and it's not rocket science here, the trump campaign is going to try to do everything it can to tar whoever the democratic nominee is to depress his or her numbers and then hope that you can get, you know, squeak by another electoral college victory. that's the game plan here, the ball game, and they'll have the resources do it. so these numbers, while probably depressing for the trump operation right now are definitely not the end of the story, we have months and months of, you know, advertising that's going to happen here. and then it becomes a real

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