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want this to be a divisive statement. i wanted this to be a uniting statement. so i'm opposed to any of the names. gervonn: they didn't want the names. they didn't want phillip pannell's name on there, as if such a history would put a tarnish on teaneck's image. and then somebody just jumped up and said, well, let's rename a street after it. michael: one thing we can do to take another step in the right direction is possibly rename a prominent street called black lives matter way. gervonn: but that's not what people asked for. so that was like an appeasement. has there been- have there been 3000 members that wrote a petition that requested that? jim: councilwoman rice, i don't think you're understanding. i did not say... why are you smiling? you think you made a point? we can do other things. gervonn: i kind of remember stepping back at that point. for us, it was just so personal.

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