she's come out and said she believes in roe, believes it should be codified. she doesn't sign on to support a democratic bill that would do just that because it goes too far. she'll introduce her own legislation. the way congress is divided right now, that legislation, bipartisan or her own, doesn't have the votes to pass. >> i'm guessing she's glad she's up in '20 and not in '22. >> absolutely. >> when she was up, what does she do? she votes against amy coney barrett, which was absolutely an issue in her senate race. >> eugene, the thing that interests me in a post-war world, how many officials got to duck their position on abortion on their lifetime. now you've got to find out -- it's when you start to get to -- i didn't get to the morning after pill. i didn't have time to get to that in the interview, but you start to go into the specifics of the reproductive rights law, that's when you open the pandora's box. >> the place he was most uncomfortable is what happens next. that's exactly what people have been talking about who are abortion advocates. okay, so you don't like roe v. wade. what happens after that and what does that country look like? it looks bifurcated. you look in one state where you can get an abortion and in another where a woman can be
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