about something. if rudy giuliani could exonerate president trump of all wrong doing under oath, don't you think trump would allow him to go do that? >> good point. so rudy giuliani what he was angry at yovanovitch over was that she blocked ukrainian prosecutors from coming to the united states and presenting their case of corruption on biden. that she wouldn't grant them visas. "the new yorker" did some digging into that and it sounds like it wasn't just her that said no to that. it was a number of state department officials and they write giuliani invited the schoecken to talk to hem, but officials who consulted yovanovitch blocked his visa. they notified kent, who concurred with the decision. so it sounds like she wasn't really the brick wall for rudy giuliani. it was the state department that was the brick wall. >> well, i think we have to
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