bad? >> absolutely. >> is that spying? >> it's illegal surveillance. it's not court authorized -- >> whatever illegal surveillance means, they did it. so all this stuff that they didn't illegally surveil trump's campaign, they did because they had no legal basis after the january 2017 data dump by the russian guy to believe that the dossier was reliable. they alter exculpatory information in june of 2017 that would have further proven that carter page is not a russian agent who was actually working with the cia. let me ask you directly, do you believe carter page was or ever was an agent of the russian government trying to do harm to his country? >> i'm going to refer to the evidence we found here which is that -- >> thank you. >> they, the fbi at the end of
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