squirrel and i think potentially illegal attack by the president of the united states during the time of her testimony. it was just a remarkable moment. and that -- that one particular moment, whether it ends up being part of an impeachment article or not i think is going to be more than just a footnote in american history. that was an amazing caricature i suppose of how this president has conducted himself for the last three years. >> representative, you come from the great state of michigan. pure michigan. and you are a swing state. what are you telling those in the middle about what's happening these last two weeks? and what -- what you've seen and what are you trying to tell them they need to watch out for? >> i tell them basically the same thing i said a minute ago. let's not get caught up in some of the detail and minutiae because the president's supporters are trying to get us to go down that path. i tell them to just take a step back and just think about what we've seen in the last several months. in the picture that's been painted of the extent to which this president is willing to go