vossoughian outside the courthouse with danny cevallos and adam pollock. the sandoval hearing is under way, what are we learning? >> reporter: yeah. again, it's about this establishment of a pattern of behavior, right, that we had talked about when we spoke last. and it seems as if one of the attorneys for donald trump who's kind of moved into the main seat during this sandoval hearing is arguing that none of those cases, none of the judgments from prior cases pertain to what they are dealing with now with the hush-money trial. however, the people are arguing that, in fact, those very judgments are what establishes pattern of behavior for the former president and why he would engage in a quote/unquote alleged scheme like the one they are saying he did with the trump hush-money trial. so i think it's going to come down to whether or not the attorneys and donald trump himself feel comfortable in testifying, especially considering what the cross may look like and they're going