still trapped and we don't know if they are alive. we hope they are. firefighters couldn't get to the scene because of constant russian shelling. we know russia continues to shell cities like kharkiv and the general assumption is nowhere in ukraine is safe from russian air strikes. >> so where do people go if nowhere is safe? >> well, that's the biggest issue now because men from 18 to 60 can't get out of the country, so there's nowhere to go for those men that are trying to flee the war, who are trying to take their family somewhere safe, and that's the biggest goal -- that's the achievement that russia is trying to show