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bush spoke about about how coming up in the church, a member of her faith community, she saw her own mind changed as she heard these stories and made these decisions herself, she said absolutely this can change minds. the reality on the ground, you and i have covered this issue for a long time, we know how deeply passionate and entrenched these viewpoints are. we even saw during the hearing, these two stark contrasts between the lawmakers who shared their stories to have abortions and a republican lawmaker on the committee who testified for the committee who said, pointing to her mother's decision not to have an abortion. these are deeply held views. do i think in the broader conversation around this issue, we're now seeing the impact of reflective democracy, having more women of color and women period in the halls of congress, this is what you get. and actually i asked one of these lawmakers about this. listen to what she told me. >> is that an outgrowth of reflective democracy? >> i totally think so. being able to see what a difference barbara's story, cori's story, and my story can

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