as being an experienced lawyer, is the normal rule is you can appeal once there's a verdict in the case. at the end of the case. you don't get to do interim appeals. this is very much an exception. the circuit was interested in whether this was properly before the court to begin with. why is that important? because if it's not properly there, they can send it back to judge chutkan and say, you are green lit, go forward. >> ryan, andrew, thank you so very much. joyce, if you would stay with us for a moment. there's a new twist in the election interference case against donald trump in georgia. we see live pictures right there of a rainy tarmac in d.c. looks like the former president is about to emerge from one of the vehicles. i want to go back to the other case that we are talking about, the president's co-defendants,
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