candidate to make the case, on the best person for the job. and here's why the other people aren't. donald trump potentially creating a problem for the republican party in a general law election against joe biden and the democrats. that's the reason why he's not the right candidate. that's what i'd be saying if our one of these candidates. i'd be making the case. i'll be able to beat joe biden. donald trump won't be able to be if he's constantly bogged down with these legal issues. >> karen, this is a question that joe biden and other democrats are gonna have to think about to going into next year. what do you think is the best fine-tuned case on all these legal issues and indictments, that anyone running against him should make? >> first of, all the idea that he won't be attending the state because he has to report to gel, it speaks for itself. there are jokes in this debate could write them solve the candidates are willing to go on the attack. the difference between this debate and a debate with a democrat, and with the biden

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