about this object. we know it was spotted in the last 24 hours. it was taken down, we think, roughly 1:30 eastern in the range between 1:30 eastern and right now, 3:00 eastern. president biden ordered it to be shot down. there is an expectation that because the debris ended up on frozen water basically, they can recover some of that, it is much smaller than that chinese surveillance balloon. they're not even saying when we talked about what we don't know who owned this object, where it came from, and they don't know the purpose of it. not calling it chinese, not calling it a balloon either. presumably, and you heard john kirby reference this a couple of times, more details could come from the pentagon briefing set to start truly any minute. >> a couple of things i know will get asked at the pentagon briefing whether we get the details or not is tbd. one is what kind of air craft was used. what kind of missile was used or how was it brought down, shot down, and then i think we'll get
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