they're in a virtual dead heat if you look at the margin of error. phil murphy leads kri-- ciatarrelli by three points. you and i have done countless discussions on this show over many months to talk about this and we're here in the home stretch. >> hallie, number one, turnout in a state that joe biden ended up winning -- >> you're kidding me. is turnout important? i'm shocked. >> it's the reason joe biden will be campaigning for terry mcauliffe, why stacey abrams is there on sunday. number two, hallie, is geography. glenn youngkin, the republican
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