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there have been tipping points in recent memory on other issues where congress and the senate seemed primed to get something done, and then once they got to the 10 or 5 yard line, it fell apart. i'm not saying that's what's going to happen here, but i'm also saying that's not what's going to happen here. the more information they have that is tangible, things like what the "wall street journal" reported and the documents that houghen brought to the committee, those things help, though, and the fact it's bipartisan, i know we have seen this before, but i like to believe these movies can have other endings sometimes. it's possible. especially when these lawmakers are as outspoken as they are and they do all have skin in the game as grandparents and parents of kids on these platforms. >> ali vitale, thank you. jacob ward, thank you. keach, great to have you on the show. thanks to all of you. >> we're about to hear from president biden. we think some time in the next 15, 20 minutes, maybe. that's the live shot where he'll be speaking from. he's trying to side step some of the partisan gridlock in

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