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him earlier today. ideas? so, you know, there's a bunch of these texts, also from laura ingraham, charlie, and again, it's beyond even asking the question of, like, is this a breach of journalistic ethics? again, they're not acting as journalists. they're acting as conciglieres to the president. the notion of a conservative echo chamber and the notion of a supposed liberal media, this is a different thing, that ideological symmetry between fox news and the president. this is a kind of co-conspiratorial relationship and it's at the bedrock of so much that's wrong with the way that information works in america these days. >> yeah, no, it became a feedback loop, you know? we've talked about jesse watters and sean hannity. could i just comment? think about the president of the united states listening to judge jenine and lou dobbs. if you think things were crazy, up that that for a moment.

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