secretary of defense in that hollowed-out pentagon that ben mentioned know? what did he know? when did he know it? i don't want to cast aspersions but this just smells fishy. >> i want tous deal with the elephant in the room. ben, there's someone with a las name, flynn, the other someone with the last anytime flynn has gone around the bend, bat bleepe crazy. he was pardoned. he was calling for all sorts of crazy action.cr he and the pillow guy are still the craziest activists, if that's the right word, lunatics on behalf of the big lie, and the ongoing election denial, election subversion movement. if your last name is the same as that guy's last name and you work in the united states wo military, your salary is paid by the american taxpayer and you defend this country here and abroad, don't you want to come up to congress and clear the record and clear your name? >> you would think so, nicole. i mean, especially because the y different information that we have out there, for instance, is that we have, from reporting,