so he would feel in control. rouse judge in spotlight after disallowing the word victims in the courtroom. judge in rouse trial faces backlash from asian food joke. definitely not okay. what -- i think the president's statement speaks to this, and he puts himself in the camp of americans who feel angry and concerned. what are we left to feel about the administration of justice? >> well, i think one of the things that this trial has shown many people who have had the opportunity to see inside a courtroom is what black people in this country have been experiencing for hundreds of years, which is the system doesn't necessarily work fairly for everyone. because people are people. they have biases, and they bring them into courtroom. so while the system sometimes work -- i don't want to say it never works. but in this case, it's very hard